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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: white marlin] #6398175
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by FlyinFinn
I do not believe terrorism is enough to continue to operate our countries foreign policy in disregard of the Constitution.


how about Social Security? is THAT enough reason to disregard the Constitution?

how about the income tax? is THAT enough reason to disregard the Constitution?

how about tax courts where you're guilty until proven innocent? is THAT enough reason to disregard the Constitution?

btw...thank you for your service.



Those three examples weren't passed as an add on to a farm bill, the topic of this is about 'war' that isn't really war. It causes unspeakable suffering and is making our country less safe while promoting a larger and less transparent government. I do not like any of the examples you posted, however I like unending 'wars' and faux patriotism even less.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: Snowpa] #6398257
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
how many do you know that do that and in your opinion should they be using horses and binders yet



Here you would be hard pressed to find a poor farmer



No shortage of $70,000 pickup trucks in front of the local cafe at 9 am here, either.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398258
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thanx for your service Finn









Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398335
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Seems to me that a lot of people mistake people heavily in debt as rich. I could be wrong, but where I'm from, grandpa never had a new truck or new tractor. It was always used---well used. I'm sure he took subsities, but the farmers and land owners are the first people they look to when a new tax is "needed" for schools or whatever else. The taxes on the land today are more than they paid for the whole place in '67. Why don't we drop the land taxes and the subsities?

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: fishnhunts] #6398349
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Originally Posted by fishnhunts
Seems to me that a lot of people mistake people heavily in debt as rich. I could be wrong, but where I'm from, grandpa never had a new truck or new tractor. It was always used---well used. I'm sure he took subsities, but the farmers and land owners are the first people they look to when a new tax is "needed" for schools or whatever else. The taxes on the land today are more than they paid for the whole place in '67. Why don't we drop the land taxes and the subsities?


I would like to explore that idea more in depth, drop agriculture subsidies as well as property tax on lands that are farmed. The trend of "market efficiency" through large scale production is a poor one, concentrating wealth in the hands of few has never been a viable long term solution. Due to the influx of cheap that labor that has occurred and continues to occur small farmers cannot compete with large scale production that uses this cheap labor, if large farms had to pay more than 10 dollars a hour with no benefits other than a old trailer house out back we would not be seeing the dissolution of the small farms at the scale we are seeing it.

I apologize for straying so far from the topic which is the illegal war in Yemen. The war Iraq was not about terrorist, the war in Libya was not about terrorist, the war in Yemen is not about terrorist, if we want to prevent terrorist attacks all we have to do is secure our borders. Almost 200,000 people have died in Iraq due actions caused by the U.S. It was a mistake to kill Saddam, it was a mistake to kill Qaddafi, it was a mistake to try and kill Assad. We allowed the creation of Isis, we destabilized a entire region, our actions over seas have been both illegal and immoral and congresses refusal to act makes them as guilty as the presidents have been.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398585
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It's all a product of the welfare state.

You think we'd be fighting these wars if we actually had to pay for them?

Subsidies for businesses?

Artificially low interest rates?

Free phones?

Until we return to sound money practices there will never be meaningful change.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398597
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Finn joined the USMC as an infantryman to defend the Constitution.

Lol , OK.

Sell that ideological BS somewhere else .


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6398612
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Finn joined the USMC as an infantryman to defend the Constitution.

Lol , OK.

Sell that ideological BS somewhere else .

smile

Then there's this today.................

https://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/18139585/senate-yemen-saudi-arabia-resolution-khashoggi

Which story is correct??????????????????

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398616
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Hippe do I need to explain the difference between the House of Representatives and the Senate?

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398618
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Nope, can't i ask which is correct??

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398620
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Both versions are correct.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6398622
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Finn joined the USMC as an infantryman to defend the Constitution.

Lol , OK.

Sell that ideological BS somewhere else .


My convictions seem to have offended you in some way. Get over it.
Perhaps you can tell me why I joined the Marines more truthfully than I can?

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398623
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Ohh, i see where ya'll are going with this, let me rephrase to be cleareer.

Which one holds water?

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398627
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My uneducated guess is that status quo is what will hold water.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398630
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Holds water? What do you mean? Isn't a good thing to have debate in the House AND the Senate concerning the massacre in Yemen? That is, after all, their duty.
The Senate is democratically controlled and has no allegiance to the current republican president. The House is controlled by the same party as the president. The house doesn't like to have to do it's politically uncomfortable job of debating 'wars' and has taken steps to stop debate by the house liberty caucus.

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Could be, i don't know which has more weight if any of it does.

Doesn't it have to pass both? Or is a Senate resolution different than putting it in a bill?

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398635
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From your article Hippe:

The White House in particular has pushed back against the Senate’s measure, and if it were to end up on Trump’s desk, it would almost certainly face a presidential veto. Additionally, the House approved a rule on Wednesday that blocks the chamber from taking up any Yemen resolutions before the end of the year, meaning the Senate resolution won’t advance.

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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398638
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Originally Posted by FlyinFinn
From your article Hippe:

The White House in particular has pushed back against the Senate’s measure, and if it were to end up on Trump’s desk, it would almost certainly face a presidential veto. Additionally, the House approved a rule on Wednesday that blocks the chamber from taking up any Yemen resolutions before the end of the year, meaning the Senate resolution won’t advance.


Also meaning what the house did was mute.

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Steven wins the prize...Status quo.

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