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A few Christmas presents ready to go! #6398430
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And what thinks the T-man crowd? My guess is you would fall off your chair had you any idea what I have into these presents... I think they are pretty neat!


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6398431
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They look great! Need my address? cool

Chris


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6398443
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Good looking jackets!! I prefer the natural ones but if red and blue "float your boat", that's ok. They are all REAL fur. smile


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6398936
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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6398940
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Look great


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6398947
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Just how many girlfriends do you have?? Youre my hero!!



Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6398970
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Originally Posted by Beaglador
And what thinks the T-man crowd? My guess is you would fall off your chair had you any idea what I have into these presents... I think they are pretty neat!


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My wife want you to marry her! They look great.


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6399093
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Ok I am buckled in let us have it.

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6399193
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Pretty neat! I can only imagine what you have in them.

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6399219
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I thinking you don't have as much in those jackets as folks might think you do.

To me, those look like jackets that have been made with let-out pelts. I think that is the correct term. A let-out jacket is made with small pieces of fur sewn together with pieces of fabric. The length of the fox fur covers up the fabric on the outside of the jacket. It also gives the jacket that shaggy look. Using the proper technique, you can make a jacket like those in the picture from 1 (2 pelts max) pelt. If you could look st the inside of the jacket, you would see a lot of thread.

A jacket like those in the picture that is made with full pelts would take 7-10 pelts and would have a smoother look. The difference between 2 pelts to make a jacket as opposed to 10 pelts is huge when it comes to cost. Back in the late 70s and early 80s, you could buy a bluefox jacket for a couple hundred bucks because the jack was made with let out pelts. Whereas a full,pelt jacket would have been at least a grand or more.

Please note - I am in no way criticizing those jackets. They are beautiful. They are most likely well constructed and give 7 young ladies lots of pleasure.

Good job.


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: goldnut] #6399371
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Originally Posted by goldnut
Just how many girlfriends do you have?? Youre my hero!!

Originally Posted by goldnut
Just how many girlfriends do you have?? Youre my hero!!



I’ll never tell

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: jctunnelrat] #6399374
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Send pictures!

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: wissmiss] #6399384
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Hey Nancy- I like your feedback- I’m well aware of your vast experience and wisdom of all things trapping!

The skins are not let out- not even partially. In my experience; on this coast and likely in this country, skilled labor is far more costly than a few Pa fox skins. So your 7-10 estimate is right on. Except for the one blue vest on the left, in which the skins are put together vertically. The skins are attached to one another horizontally. The only fabric is the lining (satin). The 70s and 80s sound nice!

I like the naturals better as well! I’m thinking next round of product will be full length and hooded!

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6399474
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Interesting. Putting the pelts together horizontally sure gives a different look to the jacket. Thanks for enlightening me.

I agree that labor costs in the US would be expensive on doing a jacket that has been let out.


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6399505
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Cool coats, and interesting info. Thank you for explaining how you built them , and thank you Nancy for explaining the let out process.

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6399524
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Those are nice.One of the rappers like Sniff Doggy Doo Doo might like the bright colored ones?


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: upstateNY] #6399658
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Those are nice.One of the rappers like Sniff Doggy Doo Doo might like the bright colored ones?


When I wear fur; as I often do in winter, the only folks that pay me compliments are the “Sniffy Dog” types of folks...

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Sharon] #6399659
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Originally Posted by Sharon
Cool coats, and interesting info. Thank you for explaining how you built them , and thank you Nancy for explaining the let out process.


I didn’t build them- but I have been trying to become learned in the processes our fur’s final uses.

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6399728
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Very nice Beaglador, I'll trade you forty pounds of scrapple for one of the natural ones. grin

Seriously, though...I will...


Eh...wot?

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The recipients of your Christmas gifts are very lucky people.


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Very nice Beaglador, I'll trade you forty pounds of scrapple for one of the natural ones. grin

Seriously, though...I will...


I appreciate the offer! But I must pass- I currently have a batch of venison scrapple simmering!

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6403927
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Just my luck...


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6404088
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Ok what you got in them ???

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6404131
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At current fur prices those must be worth tens of dollars each


Look pretty good though


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6404135
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WOW they look great

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: goldnut] #6404174
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Originally Posted by goldnut
Just how many girlfriends do you have?? Youre my hero!!

grin

Nice looking Fur!


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6404200
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Beautiful! Are they all vests?

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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by goldnut
Just how many girlfriends do you have?? Youre my hero!!

grin

Nice looking Fur!



I wish they all agreed!

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Miley] #6404306
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Originally Posted by Miley
Beautiful! Are they all vests?


Yes

Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6404565
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Very nice...who ever gets them will feel fortunate...

I need to up my fur catch...I’d like to get one made for my gal...


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Re: A few Christmas presents ready to go! [Re: Beaglador] #6404764
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Originally Posted by Beaglador
Originally Posted by Miley
Beautiful! Are they all vests?


Yes
again beautiful! Since you mentioned that you did not create these beauties, can you share with us who did?

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[/quote] again beautiful! Since you mentioned that you did not create these beauties, can you share with us who did?
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Lea Fur (201)-444-5554 in Ridgewood, NJ- Give Chris a call if you are interested, he can build you whatever you may want or need!

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Thank you sir!

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Great looking vests.
When I went to the NAFA fur school,we were shown the technique of "leathering".
Every fox skin was cut into 1 inch strips after blocking,then 1/2 inch strips of leather were sewn between them.
Nick,the technician sewed a complete vest including the leathering in around 20 minutes.That is not including the lining.
Letting out is a bit different technique.The procedure is to slice a skin into 1/8 or 1/4 inch strips,but leave them all attached at the edges.then the skins are pulled for length,the cuts moving diagonally to each other and sewn back together.
Nick let out a beaver pelt and when he was done it was 6 inches wide and about 4 feet long with what they call a herringbone design in the fur from all the seams.This technique is used in full length coats to eliminate any horizontal seams and give the skins the look of running the full length of the garment.It is used extensively in mink coats.
There is a machine that they use to make the cuts,but it can also be done by hand.A good technician with a fur sewing machine can sew very fast-unbelievably fast.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Great looking vests.
When I went to the NAFA fur school,we were shown the technique of "leathering".
Every fox skin was cut into 1 inch strips after blocking,then 1/2 inch strips of leather were sewn between them.
Nick,the technician sewed a complete vest including the leathering in around 20 minutes.That is not including the lining.
Letting out is a bit different technique.The procedure is to slice a skin into 1/8 or 1/4 inch strips,but leave them all attached at the edges.then the skins are pulled for length,the cuts moving diagonally to each other and sewn back together.
Nick let out a beaver pelt and when he was done it was 6 inches wide and about 4 feet long with what they call a herringbone design in the fur from all the seams.This technique is used in full length coats to eliminate any horizontal seams and give the skins the look of running the full length of the garment.It is used extensively in mink coats.
There is a machine that they use to make the cuts,but it can also be done by hand.A good technician with a fur sewing machine can sew very fast-unbelievably fast.


Thanks Boco!

I have seen the “leathering” technique in many garments, it adds an entirely different feel to the garment... Agreed that a skilled technician can stitch it up in unbelievably short amounts of time.Have you seen “perfed” garments? Access to those technicians has become quite the obstacle here. Being a thing of the past is unacceptable in the fashion world- so finding someone that is not only skilled/ experienced in fur and up to date with modern techniques and styles is quite a struggle. Besides some remnants in NYC, actual manufacturing of fur garments is just something that doesn’t occur in the US- sad because as far as I can tell- much of the US was settled and established for/ because of fur.

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