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Thompson tables fur sale starts today #6398567
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Anyone attending this important Manitoba fur sale might give us some feedback about it on Trapperman.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6398603
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I bet you prices are down at least 25% over last year on marten.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6398644
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Gibb, No doubt, but this will tell us the attitude of the buyers, ie. Northwest Company, Bruno, etc. I personally am always interested going into the season what the perception/outlook of buyers in the country is. What do you think of the Red Fox market??

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6398774
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What red fox market lol. I have no doubt that there will be interest in the marten, the question will be at what level. From what i have heard the harvest numbers are good this year. The buyers will be gun shy this year after what happened last year.Pretty hard to get excited when you still own the ones you bought last year. Could be interesting anybody that shipped to NAFA last year after the tables made out ok. The rest either still own them or loss money.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6398892
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Marten went for a high of $60

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: scootermac] #6398960
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Originally Posted by scootermac
Marten went for a high of $60

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: red mt] #6399056
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if they where the heavy northern type marten? wow down 35% from last year! anyone have the sale average? any Montana type on the sale?

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399178
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That would be in Canadian dollars
No Montana types there.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399186
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I wouldn't take the prices from that sale as an indicator of prices at the auction.Lots of those skins wind up putting money in someones pocket when re sold at the international auction later.The prices at that sale are more in line with the advances paid by the auctions.

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399349
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Actual Robert it is a good indicator of what the market is doing, on an average year 2500 to 3500 marten show up at the sale. The biggest cash crop that in most years are easy to sell. Most of the trappers will sell to private buyers while other will take an advance and ship.
Going by the numbers $ I would bet more will ship this year.
Last year if they sold at the tables they came out ahead of the market, this year the buyers will be a lot more cautious having loss money last year.
The buyers who shipped to NAFA made out ok because of the February sale and the large Korean buyers who made the difference last year.
The buyers who shipped to FHA lost money and are still waiting for the bigger sizes to sell since they held them back in a falling market.
Some years the prices at the Thompson tables are ahead of the market, it is interesting that this year the first international auction is not till almost the end of February.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399440
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I will bet you a dime to a dollar Nafa will get more for the marten than anyone selling at the Thompson fur table.
From all the years I have been following that sale results in the Canadian trapper magazine,it made me sick to see how the trappers get ripped off compared to the auctions.I seen it here in the earlier days too when we had the buyers like Ratcliff in Cochrane and the Northern Store in Smooth Rock.Many trappers sold there to get fast money,but at a big discount compared to those of us that shipped.You can bet that fur went to the auction putting money in someone elses pocket.This was so bad years ago that Ralph Bice and the boys started the OTA fur sales.They were sick of being ripped off.
It is good for the town of Thompson,as the Northern trappers spend their money there for Christmas,which is important for them.Just a shame they are taken advantage of because of that.
That is my opinion.The Thompson Fur table is important to the Northern people.And I realize those that travel there to buy need to cover their expenses.
Jim do you ever wonder why there are no more local fur buyers in Canada,when there used to be one in every town?
I agree with your asessment of last years marten sales at NAFA and FHA as I had a good amount and equal lots of marten at both venues last year.
The previous year was quite the opposite.

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399461
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boco it is what it is....you cant take old previous markets from past years and twist them to fit your agenda. we are talking about TODAYS MARKET....

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399504
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A lot of effort goes into this from the Manitoba Trappers Association. A part of the grant comes from Manitoba Hydro (electrical company) to hold this event. The MTA also bring up a lot of trap supplies so they get a bargain in shipping.
Interesting that they require 4 buyers there and they have to be Manitoba resident to hold a fur buyers licence. Some years it has been a challenge to get there with 4 buyers.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399508
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Wallfur my post is straightforward,nothing twisted and no agenda whatever that crap means.I know the market well,today and past.What is your point and where are you coming from.Sounds like you have some kind of "agenda"

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399556
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boco my point is your constantly posting on how great nafa and there certification is!......gets alittle old! especially certification, it will finish off the fur market and trapping as we know it.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wallfur] #6399578
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Originally Posted by wallfur
boco my point is your constantly posting on how great nafa and there certification is!......gets alittle old! especially certification, it will finish off the fur market and trapping as we know it.



Why will signing a piece of paper stating that all laws were followed be the end of the fur market and trapping?


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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399587
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mink99..hows certification working out for your mink farm? great prices? we already have enough restrictions on trapping...ask boco how he likes the canine traps that are now mandatory in Canada. he don't use them! that's why there ok with him!! but go ahead and throw the other canine trappers under the bus .....so sign away today but what will they want tomarrow? once you start down a slippery slope its hard to turn back.

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399676
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You guys are idiots,I never mentioned certification in this thread at all.
And when did I ever say Nafa was better than FHA???I ship to BOTH!-Morons.

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399681
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Boco, Last year the trappers that sold at the Thompson tables did better than those that shipped to either NAFA or FHA (for the most part), so sometimes a savvy seller CAN make out selling elsewhere.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399691
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I don't believe that.The best marten sale last year was at NAFA.FHA marten sale in Helsinki was a bust.Better goods still unsold.
The year before that the best marten prices were at Helsinki FHA.
I just looked up the numbers.Northern Manitoba marten which are hvys-Thompson $96-Nafa $120.all CDN dollars-BIG difference.

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