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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6399916
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You ever eat a wolf white?


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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6399921
12/15/18 10:12 PM
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No I have never been in that bad a situation laugh


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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6399939
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Just wondered,cause I heard you like chowing down on the odd marten,lol.


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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6399943
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LOL ! Yeah that was bad enough I never want to be in that position again ! sick


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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6399948
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Went through some of my records on Thompson Manitoba wolves, these wolves go on the tundra in the summer calving grounds.
166-170 cm length minus tail40-42 cm.= 104 pound wolves December/January nose to base of tail= 51 inches girth 73cm

We are experiencing in southern Manitoba the tapeworm Echinococcus multilocularis in our canids and have human infections. I helped in some of the collections last summer.

Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6399950
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Are the humans getting it from domestic canines ?


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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400000
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White; Due to personal health privacy rules it can not be discussed.

Wild canine scat had the parasites present as well as harvested canines.

Last edited by Northof50; 12/15/18 11:13 PM. Reason: response to you question
Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400012
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There is a warning in Manitoba's trapping guide 2018-2019 that you can look online at.
Our Chief Medical officer is also a vet.........so things got going when the #### hit the fan.

Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400015
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When I skin wolves I spray the fur with a mixture of bleach and water to kill that chit.Especially around the butthole.
Trapper Ron(Lancour) wrote a good article about it in the Trapper magazine back in the 80's.
It follows a moose deer canid cycle.Wolves get it from eating raw moose and deer meat.They pass the eggs in the scat,as can domestic dogs that eat raw moose or deer,then humans contract it in cyst form called hydatids cyst when dogs lick them etc.Humans handling wolf pelts can inhale the dried fecies dust from the fur and get it in the lungs.
Never, ever feed your dogs raw moose or deer scraps.

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Re: Wolf size [Re: white17] #6400076
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Originally Posted by white17
Are the humans getting it from domestic canines ?


A few dog drivers in Alaska and Canada have gotten it from sled dogs. One of the top female drivers from your neck of the woods was diagnosed with it a few years back now.


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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400081
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Another good reason not to let you dog lick you.....especially after it has butt groomed.

Re: Wolf size [Re: Northof50] #6400104
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Originally Posted by Northof50
Another good reason not to let you dog lick you.....especially after it has butt groomed.



Doesn't have to lick you, you can get it from petting them, or handing them in the case of the dog drivers, although we pet our sled dogs too.


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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400135
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Geez, this thread went to , the umm, dogs!
I did not know about this..is the parasite present in just raw deer and moose? Or is it delivered by a insect?

Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400218
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https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjd4YCbsqTfAhXpq4MKHX9zCBcQFjABegQIDhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEchinococcus_multilocularis&usg=AOvVaw2uIbdRXJGfCwWWhOzY_oEW

a little stimulating gut wrenching reading material before breakfast.

Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400337
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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400677
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If I remember correctly, the parasite White mentions can be inhaled. If it is, it can end up in your brain and be a real problem.
If I also remember correctly, there was an area bio in Nome in the 90s who had one of those cysts. Not sure if it ever caused her serious problems. Her name is/was Kate Persons.
Maybe Gulo knew her?
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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400750
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Yes, supposedly Echinococcus can be transmitted through inhalation (from the semi-dried, microscopic eggs that are shed). Lots of hype down here in Idaho and the intermountain west about the need to kill all the wolves because they brought the dreaded hydatid cyst disease down here. Simply, and loudly, I call BS. The imported wolves were injected with so much Ivermectin and other things that they were probably the "cleanest" wolves ever been in this state. Coyotes, red foxes, and yes, even sweet Fifi have been carriers of Echinococcus forever. According to the hype in the local Post Office and elsewhere, hydatid cyst disease is going to wipe out the human race in Idaho. Come on, man! Far as I know, there's never been a fatality attributed to the disease in Idaho. Taking a bath is statistically much more dangerous.

MT. Yes, I knew Kate. Quite the musher! I was not aware that she suffered from hydatid cyst disease. Have not kept up with her.

Jack


Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400832
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Another "Oh my God" story that will not effect 99.9999999% of the world. If digging around in animal guts was 1/10 % the danger claimed through-out my life, I wouldn't have lived long enough to learn to count to ten.
I do reccommend gloves of some sort for skinning, as it cuts down on how often you need to wash your hands before eating.


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Re: Wolf size [Re: waggler] #6400860
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Really ?? Before eating ???? That seems excessive if you use enough whiskey.

Jack; was Kate married to Dave ??


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Re: Wolf size [Re: Boco] #6400890
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