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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399715
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Ouch boco you hurt my little feelings but name calling is always the last line of defense. its easier than admitting your wrong!!! Reguardless what happened last year.....the botton line is the marten market is in the tank this year!!!!##

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399751
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We shall know soon enough.If what you say is true then the price at Thompson earlier sale should be better than the NAFA later one.(unless ,well,you know).
The last time marten was "in the tank"was before I ever started shipping fur.

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399762
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Maybe i should sell to you....then you can send them to nafa and make killing.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399775
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I sell fur I don't buy fur.Send your pelts to Thompson.

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399776
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Do Idaho Marten grade out as Montana type Marten?


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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: Jurassic Park] #6399779
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Do Idaho Marten grade out as Montana type Marten?



Most of the time they do. Occasionally a few will get bumped up to the better sections.


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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399805
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yes wissmiss is correct.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: Boco] #6399809
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Originally Posted by Boco
I sell fur I don't buy fur.Send your pelts to Thompson.
......yes that is very obvious!

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wallfur] #6399818
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Do Idaho Marten grade out as Montana type Marten?



Most of the time they do. Occasionally a few will get bumped up to the better sections.


Originally Posted by wallfur
yes wissmiss is correct.


Ok, so then it’s possible that your Marten are in the tank this year, which by the looks of it they always are in the tank.
I live in Manitoba and I wouldn’t send my fur to the Thompson sale. I agree with Boco.


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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: Jurassic Park] #6399826
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yes true I asked that question before I posted. but this thread posted northern marten as selling 35 % lower than last year.......so I guess you can draw your own conclusion then!.....but yes northern marten always sell way higher than Montana types.

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399844
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Question- in a typical year (if any such thing exists anymore), what is the more valuable fur per cm2, northern marten or western U.S. bobcat? Bobcat is a much larger pelt...


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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399853
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interesting question....some of the western cats sold as high as 1600 on the country sales here. that's a lot of marten pelts. that being said the country sales on western cats( in most of the country sales) average in the 200 dollar range.....so do you compare the best cats to the best maten? kinda tough to compare in imo.

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Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: Boco] #6399945
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Originally Posted by Boco
I don't believe that.The best marten sale last year was at NAFA.FHA marten sale in Helsinki was a bust.Better goods still unsold.
The year before that the best marten prices were at Helsinki FHA.
I just looked up the numbers.Northern Manitoba marten which are hvys-Thompson $96-Nafa $120.all CDN dollars-BIG difference.
......marten sold a lot better on the country sales than they did at nafa or fha.so if you want to compare sales. compare them all !!! nafa and fha aren't the only sales out there.

Re: Thompson tables fur sale starts today [Re: wy.wolfer] #6399984
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Name one where good hvy and semi hvy marten did better than NAFA last year.

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Ok, how many cm2 of usable fur on a big northern marten and how many cm2 of usable fur on a big western bobcat? Or sq inches. Either way.


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Last march FHA topped the western cat sales with a 99% clearance and $759 avg on several thousand western lynx cats.


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Originally Posted by Boco
Name one where good hvy and semi hvy marten did better than NAFA last year.
.......well first ,lets let nafa and fha finish selling them!!!!!!!! they are still holding most of them. your trying to compare nafa cherry picked averages to the country sales averages that have 100% clearances. when i said better thats means both prices and clearance.......go back to sewing mittens!

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Originally Posted by Boco
Last march FHA topped the western cat sales with a 99% clearance and $759 avg on several thousand western lynx cats.
.....boco that was average of the ...A .. colored cats that don't enclude the ..b.. colors.....have you ever seen a western cat??

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Boco, what's been your (or a typical Ontario) averages on your marten over, say the last 5 years?


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Ok, here's some wild a** guesses about the amount of usable fur on a marten and a western bobcat. They may be way off but I'm trying to figure out that price per unit of usable fur. Tell me how far off I'm on these measurements and give me a usable average, multi-year price per critter.

Marten= back: 22 x 4 inches= 88, belly: 22 x 3= 66, total 154 sq inches.

Bobcat= back: 38 x 9 inches= 342, belly= 36 x 8 inches= 288, total 630 sq inches.


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