No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Hey electric motor guys #6400444
12/16/18 01:19 PM
12/16/18 01:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Finster Offline OP
trapper
Finster  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Looking at buying a drill press. Trouble is that it's 220 3 phase. I don't have and don't want to play around with converter and I can't easily get 220 two phase to it I won't ever need the power that the motor would put out in 3 phase. So the question is, can a motor shop make the motor run on 110? Or would this be more expensive than just buying a 110 motor and replacing it?


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400448
12/16/18 01:24 PM
12/16/18 01:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,446
Houghton Lake, MI
strike2x Offline
trapper
strike2x  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,446
Houghton Lake, MI
If I recall from my electric days there is no such thing as 220 3 phase..... I believe the only way to remedy the problem is to replace motor or just find a different drill press.


Wish I had more time to trap....
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400449
12/16/18 01:26 PM
12/16/18 01:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35,169
McGrath, AK
W
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17  Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
W

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35,169
McGrath, AK
I'm the furthest thing from knowledgeable about this stuff..but on my table saw...the motor can be connected to run on either 110 or 220 depending on how you connect the power cord.

Maybe look at the motor. Mine has a data plate that shows both configurations


Mean As Nails
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: white17] #6400452
12/16/18 01:34 PM
12/16/18 01:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Finster Offline OP
trapper
Finster  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Originally Posted by white17
I'm the furthest thing from knowledgeable about this stuff..but on my table saw...the motor can be connected to run on either 110 or 220 depending on how you connect the power cord.

Maybe look at the motor. Mine has a data plate that shows both configurations

Nope, this is a big'un. It's industrial so 220 or 480 (or whatever) I believe. I assume I will need to get a different motor but figured I would toss the question out there. This is a nice, very ridged, PowerMatic drill press and variable speed which is a feature I'm looking for.


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400458
12/16/18 01:40 PM
12/16/18 01:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35,169
McGrath, AK
W
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17  Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
W

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35,169
McGrath, AK
Sounds great ! I know I used a BIG Powermatic planer some years ago that was also 3 phase 220. What the heck are you drilling that takes that much hp ??


Mean As Nails
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400462
12/16/18 01:41 PM
12/16/18 01:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,388
kentucky
L
logger coffey Offline
trapper
logger coffey  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,388
kentucky
Get you a variably frequency drive to run the motor of of straight 220 ,than you can control the speeds , very nice set up this way. or just get a smaller motor . but i would prefer a vfd myself.

Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400464
12/16/18 01:42 PM
12/16/18 01:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 548
NY
whartonrattrappe Offline
trapper
whartonrattrappe  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 548
NY
Depending on the horse power of the motor you may be able to use a variable frequency drive (VFD). They have the capability to produce three phase output from single phase input. While the VFD output is DC it still uses a AC motor.

I use some of them in our wire mill.

Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400466
12/16/18 01:43 PM
12/16/18 01:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,849
Pa
W
Wright Brothers Offline
trapper
Wright Brothers  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,849
Pa
Might be cheaper/better to run 240 to it. Unless a long ways away from panel.

There are guys on here with the knowledge you seek. I aint one of em.





Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400467
12/16/18 01:43 PM
12/16/18 01:43 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 548
NY
whartonrattrappe Offline
trapper
whartonrattrappe  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 548
NY
Coffey beat me to it. LOL

Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: white17] #6400471
12/16/18 01:49 PM
12/16/18 01:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Finster Offline OP
trapper
Finster  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Originally Posted by white17
Sounds great ! I know I used a BIG Powermatic planer some years ago that was also 3 phase 220. What the heck are you drilling that takes that much hp ??
Nothing that takes that much. I just want the rigidity, preciseness and adjustability.


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: logger coffey] #6400473
12/16/18 01:52 PM
12/16/18 01:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 41
new brunswick canada
G
gorham2464 Offline
trapper
gorham2464  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 41
new brunswick canada
Originally Posted by logger coffey
Get you a variably frequency drive to run the motor of of straight 220 ,than you can control the speeds , very nice set up this way. or just get a smaller motor . but i would prefer a vfd myself.

what he said not that hard to do

Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400547
12/16/18 03:16 PM
12/16/18 03:16 PM

K
krispcritter
Unregistered
krispcritter
Unregistered
K



Check the name plate on the motor, it should say what voltages it can be run on/at.

Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400593
12/16/18 04:14 PM
12/16/18 04:14 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
M
Mike in A-town Offline
trapper
Mike in A-town  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
Usually a motor is either 3 phase or single phase... But as others have stated, the nameplate on the motor will list the voltages it can run on if it is indeed a multivoltage motor.

If it is indeed a multivoltage motor there is usually a wiring diagram inside the junction box (or "peckerhead") where the line power is connected to the motor leads. The voltage level of the incoming line power will determine which sequence the motor leads are wired in.

A few photos of the nameplate and inside the peckerhead might help.

Mike

Last edited by Mike in A-town; 12/16/18 04:16 PM.

One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Mike in A-town] #6400721
12/16/18 06:11 PM
12/16/18 06:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Finster Offline OP
trapper
Finster  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Usually a motor is either 3 phase or single phase... But as others have stated, the nameplate on the motor will list the voltages it can run on if it is indeed a multivoltage motor.

If it is indeed a multivoltage motor there is usually a wiring diagram inside the junction box (or "peckerhead") where the line power is connected to the motor leads. The voltage level of the incoming line power will determine which sequence the motor leads are wired in.

A few photos of the nameplate and inside the peckerhead might help.

Mike

I can be wired 220 or 480 3 phase. My question was can a motor shop change that inexpensively and make it run on 110 volts.


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400730
12/16/18 06:19 PM
12/16/18 06:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,276
western pa
G
goldnut Offline
trapper
goldnut  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,276
western pa
A quick phone call to Musgraves will answer your questions. You been there before.



Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: goldnut] #6400740
12/16/18 06:26 PM
12/16/18 06:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Finster Offline OP
trapper
Finster  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 17,028
Fredonia, PA.
Originally Posted by goldnut
A quick phone call to Musgraves will answer your questions. You been there before.
Yea, thought of that but he never answers the phone...…. ever.....Figured someone on here might know.

Last edited by Finster; 12/16/18 06:26 PM.

I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Hey electric motor guys [Re: Finster] #6400796
12/16/18 07:32 PM
12/16/18 07:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
M
Mike in A-town Offline
trapper
Mike in A-town  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Usually a motor is either 3 phase or single phase... But as others have stated, the nameplate on the motor will list the voltages it can run on if it is indeed a multivoltage motor.

If it is indeed a multivoltage motor there is usually a wiring diagram inside the junction box (or "peckerhead") where the line power is connected to the motor leads. The voltage level of the incoming line power will determine which sequence the motor leads are wired in.

A few photos of the nameplate and inside the peckerhead might help.

Mike

I can be wired 220 or 480 3 phase. My question was can a motor shop change that inexpensively and make it run on 110 volts.


Pretty sure your least expensive option is going to be to pony up and buy a single phase motor off the shelf or get a drive to run the one you have. And depending on the amperage drawn by the 3 phase motor you might end up having to install a higher amperage 120 volt circuit to make it work.

You would have to break it all down to watts and calculate it out.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread