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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398641
12/14/18 03:07 PM
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Finn, both bodies of Congress are controlled by Republicans.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6398658
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Originally Posted by FlyinFinn
Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Finn joined the USMC as an infantryman to defend the Constitution.

Lol , OK.

Sell that ideological BS somewhere else .


My convictions seem to have offended you in some way. Get over it.
Perhaps you can tell me why I joined the Marines more truthfully than I can?


Perhaps not all inclusively but I’m pretty sure it’s close to the same as why the rest of us joined . That could be for the lifelong bennies that come with service to just wanting out of the boring town you/we grew up in . Add in that sharp uniform and you gotta recruit . Myriad of reasons people join . Defending the Constitution isn’t generally one of them .


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: hippie] #6398661
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by FlyinFinn
From your article Hippe:

The White House in particular has pushed back against the Senate’s measure, and if it were to end up on Trump’s desk, it would almost certainly face a presidential veto. Additionally, the House approved a rule on Wednesday that blocks the chamber from taking up any Yemen resolutions before the end of the year, meaning the Senate resolution won’t advance.


Also meaning what the house did was mute.

No, the house made it so that a resolution couldn't be debated. Without debate the representatives do not have to go on record to vote for or against the massacre. It's politically easier this way.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6401175
12/17/18 07:58 AM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-ar...ference-kingdom-055528728--politics.html


I still do not believe the Saud family had no prior knowledge of 9/11. I think it likely they contributed in fact.

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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: MB750] #6401308
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Originally Posted by MB750
What most people don't know is food stamps & most welfare comes out of the Agriculture budget. John Q. Farmer sees a very small part of The Farm Bill.



Another thing most people don't know is farm price support's(because they had political connection's) came long before food stamp's. They drove up the price of food then later had to cough up more tax dollar's to feed the poor that couldn't afford the higher cost anymore. So the tax payer got hit twice. This is what socialist policies do.

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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6401371
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The farm bill is just another way for Democrats to get votes. However, when grain leaves the farm, Govt soon has control of it and controls the overseas market. Many, or most farmers would probably rather have their own coop and market their grain overseas. There are people starving, and the Govts use grain as a political weapon.


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6401420
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Originally Posted by hippie


Also meaning what the house did was mute moot.


Hippie,

Didn't you mean to say moot ? laugh

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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6401470
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You would be correct Walleyed.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: walleyed] #6401543
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Dang grammar Nazis.


Eh...wot?

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6401650
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A lot of what the house does is muted..by the press


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: Lugnut] #6401911
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The farm bill is just another way for Democrats to get votes. However, when grain leaves the farm, Govt soon has control of it and controls the overseas market. Many, or most farmers would probably rather have their own coop and market their grain overseas. There are people starving, and the Govts use grain as a political weapon.

With the bulk of the commodity producing states controlled by GOP senators and reps that statement is not accurate. Dems support the farm bill because it offers assistance to millions with lower incomes. Look at the states that receive the highest net farm income from the farm bill and check who their Congressional reps are.

Bryce

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Food stamps make up almost 3/4 of the bill , wonder which side that benefits ?

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6401934
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food stamps might be 2/3 of it but I don't see a reason for any of it


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: bblwi] #6401945
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Originally Posted by bblwi
millions with lower incomes. Look at the states that receive the highest net farm income from the farm bill and check who their Congressional reps are.

Bryce


Interesting statement so I looked it up.


USDA SUBSIDIES BY STATE%


Honestly surprised

https://farm.ewg.org/progdetail.php?fips=00000&progcode=total&page=states

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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6401966
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https://snaped.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/documents/FY2019EstimatedAllocations.pdf

Kansas is expected to pay out 2,478,926 dollars in food stamps in 2019. I can not find a list of farm subsidy payouts by state by year. 1995-2017 as a total but no yearly breakdown. I seriously doubt farm subsidies in KS will be less than 2.5 million next year though.


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6401993
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I(and family) get some of these farm subsidies and I too say get rid of the whole thing. With this new bill a land owner (nothing farmer at that level) can distribute subsidy money to nieces, nephews, and cousins.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: danny clifton] #6402446
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
https://snaped.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/documents/FY2019EstimatedAllocations.pdf

Kansas is expected to pay out 2,478,926 dollars in food stamps in 2019. I can not find a list of farm subsidy payouts by state by year. 1995-2017 as a total but no yearly breakdown. I seriously doubt farm subsidies in KS will be less than 2.5 million next year though.


Farm subsidy amounts per person will eclipse food stamp's per person pay out. Not to mention all the tax exemption's they get

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