Anyone who thinks serious talk of armed revolt by gun owners will not make gun laws more restrictive is fooling himself, IMHO of course.

Agree 100%

You'll just never ever get it will you.

You would prefer Bernie or Bloomberg?

Did tim mcveigh get "it"? The talk from some puts me in mind of that wacko.

That's the problem. Who are you going to vote for. You can't vote for a DemoRat, you're slitting your own throat and they are totally against everything we stand for from guns to trapping to where you pee..... LITERALLY!. There is no third party, the only one that comes close to getting a normal, intelligent persons vote is the Libertarian party but you can't vote for them because they also live in fantasy land. That leaves the only choice being the GOP.

So the libs will cut your throat quickly, the GOP will slit it slowly but don't vote for libertarians because they'll never win.

What you're not getting is that no matter what, DemoRats will push for more restrictions, talk of war or not. I don't understand why people like you can't get it through your thick skull! There you go, back in fantasy land, what the heck does McVeigh have to do with this? He was a terrorist and has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. At least try to follow.

Not what I said.

Correct? I didn't quote you.

My only question is if they are going to ban belt loops as well? Bump stocks are a novelty that in no way enhance a gun's lethality. If anything, you are taking a very accurate fast firing weapon(ar) and making it a fast firing inaccurate weapon. There is no excuse for the government to seize property that was legally acquired. If they want to make a law regulating them from this point forward, fine. I don't agree with that but seizing property is completely unnaceptable. I don't own a bump stock but would consider one. I do own 3 trigger actuaters, are they going to come seize those from me or make me an instant felon for a $20 item I bought off the shelf at a retail store? (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)? The government is out of control.

In Fisterland maximum freedom and minimum government is Fantasy Land.

Relax Francis

Trump is also for banning "assault weapons." He said so right in his book.

Jim

Nukes and ICBMs! Lol!! Scooter! Lol!
The feds firepower IS ours. Those that care should be equipped strong as possible to get our firepower back in the right hands. I'd rather not be a serf on a reservation in my own country. LOL!!

I actually am on a reservation in my own country....not a serf though

We already went over this a week or two ago...

What makes you think the horrible awful people you mentioned don't already have belt fed weaponry? They're already out there, I guarantee it. And there isn't a law in the world that will change that.

The bump stock ban is a joke. Only the law abiding will turn them in. The wackos/criminals won't. When some nutcase decides to perpetrate another mass shooting this ban will be as useful as wet toilet paper.

The whole idea is akin to punishing your dog because a fox steals your chickens.

Mike

The government can't fight a conventional war against people in this country... They could try. But for every house they zap with a drone launched missile they will swell the ranks of their opposition.

Ask anyone who has fought an asymmetric war. You can only assume that every person you see on the street is going to try and kill you at some point. But you can't kill everyone you see... Because then everyone you see will want to kill you.

Tanks, planes, and artillery are useless against an enemy who blends into the populace.

Mike

but when folks band together, armed. to somehow try to overthrow the government, they wont blend in much anymore. i can see your argument. i still dont think a rag tag bunch of citizens will ever hope to have a chance at a succesful armed revolt against the united states. one person said all empires overthrown with 3% resistance. im pretty sure everyone south of the mason dixon makes up way more than three percent, and that didnt work back then. I also dont think that one can compare our country to "every other empire and government". Theres never been anything like this, ever. Our entire government is based on correcting all the failures of others, to ensure the people are represented and that the majority of them are happy, and well taken care of. The very foundation of our government is predicated on multiple groups of people having VERY different ideas as to whats best, discussing, and ultimately compromising on solutions that will work for as close to all of the population as possible. and by ideas i mean opinions. and despite the way you would act finster what you are spouting are opinions, not fact. to insinuate that others are somehow stupid because they do not see thing in the same blood red tint as you is the very reason we find ourselves in the mess that we do. the farther the whacko lefties go left, the farther the whacko righties go right. and believe me, there are some right extremists that are just as crazy as liberals, and more dangerous. if everyone keeps rushing to the farthest sides of the balance beam eventually its going to tip very hard, and at the rate the gop is alienating younger voters, minorities, and women, depending on an electorate (white men) that is dwindling daily, and will soon be a minority, i dont like the odds of it tipping in their favor. i am a democrat. im not ashamed to admit it. but im about as moderate as youll find. the idea of the scale tipping hard in either direction is equally frightening to me. Dont understand why people cant treat each other with some level of respect, and decency. it would go a long ways to easing this mess

I have no respect for people who think self defense is not a natural right

the premise of the modern democrat party whether moderate ( whatever that means) or not, is that socialism is a good thing.

charity should be voluntary not mandatory

I have no respect those who want to take my money by force and give it to somebody else. its not much different than the dope fiend who breaks into your home to steal the shotgun your grandad gave you so he can trade it for dope