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First snare #6402743
12/19/18 04:47 AM
12/19/18 04:47 AM
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How did I do? Is anything backwards or wrong or anything? First time actually making one.
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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6402750
12/19/18 06:06 AM
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Looks good, could get that button end a little closer to the lock, a pair of needle nose pliers gets a real nice tight bend. Did you load it?

Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6402799
12/19/18 07:54 AM
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Alum. end stops on 1x19 do NOT hold well.
I stoped useing them years ago.
The bend at the lock. I like it rounded.Not a sharp bend.
I also LOAD all my snares.

Good job


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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6402833
12/19/18 08:35 AM
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Looks good! But Newt knows what hes talkin about


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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6402901
12/19/18 10:04 AM
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Alberta
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I use a different type support collar but would say that one is on backwards ? Ive never had a problem with aluminum end stops on that size cable , but maybe some folks are not leaving any tag end outside of it .

Re: First snare [Re: H380] #6402912
12/19/18 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by H380
I use a different type support collar but would say that one is on backwards ? Ive never had a problem with aluminum end stops on that size cable , but maybe some folks are not leaving any tag end outside of it .


the spring support is correct... wink

Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6402934
12/19/18 11:05 AM
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I’ll post some pictures of my snares using sure locks within the next day or two (if not tonight).


I use a sure lock size larger than the cable. The way the lock is designed a larger size still locks up very well. By using a size larger, it will slide down the cable more easily = faster snare.


For the end stop, I bend it back to make a 90 degree bend. This is the only lock I do this with but I haven’t found a better bend for a sure lock than 90 degree back bend. Most everything else I make a reverse bend type.


Good job on the universal support collar. That’s the only type I buy and use anymore!

Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6402980
12/19/18 12:09 PM
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Iowa
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It would likely work as is. IMO though, you'll be a lot happier with a few minor improvements.
1. double crimp the stops and triple crimp the ferrules. To aid in holding.
2. Make your bend at the end a tiny circle and load the cable as Newt mentioned. To make your snares fire shut smooth and fast. Like so...

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3. Get rid of that style support collar and use one designed to fit your size cable and your preferred snare wire size, Those hold only moderately on and cable and great on none.

https://www.minntrapprod.com/3_32-Snare-Support-Collar/productinfo/32COLL-12/



A couple videos I made...




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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6403101
12/19/18 03:25 PM
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What Newt said about the aluminum ferrules. The 1x19 is really slick so you might think about using two of them instead of just one. Small animals might be fine and cats, but a coyote has no problem popping the singles off if not choked down quickly. Ask me, I know.

Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6403114
12/19/18 03:45 PM
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If hammering your ferrules on 1X19 cable I also cross punch them with a standard screwdriver for extra security and have never had a problem with coyotes popping them off. [Linked Image]
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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6403300
12/19/18 08:06 PM
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I never use an end stop on snares without killsprings.Make a loop,much stronger and you don't have to screw around bending the wire.The loop will make the snare close perfect every time. [Linked Image]
I slightly load 1x19.


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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6405201
12/21/18 05:19 PM
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I only use choke springs, I think ends need to be flattened more
Is there a swivel in middle of your snare?

Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6405318
12/21/18 08:09 PM
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The snare looks correct. I use 1 x19 cable also but I use a hammer to smash down the aluminum ends. I have never had problems doing it that way.

Re: First snare [Re: late bite] #6405478
12/21/18 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by late bite
Originally Posted by H380
I use a different type support collar but would say that one is on backwards ? Ive never had a problem with aluminum end stops on that size cable , but maybe some folks are not leaving any tag end outside of it .


the spring support is correct... wink

After a second look yes it is .. I cant figure how all these guys are having trouble with end stops coming off .. I'm not as big a number guy as many of you , but 300 coyotes in last 4 years have never popped one off, maybe it is because of the kill spring . I dont have a press , I use a hammer and anvil . Ive had coyotes open the Senneker 265# BADs and the odd chew but thats it .

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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6405488
12/21/18 10:29 PM
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This is a hog snare I made with 7/64” 1x19 and a sure lock. I make my 1/16” and 5/64” with the same bend and load.


This straight back 90 degree bend, at least with a load, works very well with sure locks. It’s the only bend I use with sure locks, and it fires/closes very quickly.


Doesn’t mean it’s the only way, but it works very well for me....


Good luck

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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6405661
12/22/18 06:48 AM
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The Old trapper saying
"If it works for you,Keep doing it"

I like my bend at the lock more round.Or more circle like.
I would NEVER trust a end stop on 1x19 cable.Quit useing them years ago.

As you said "It works for you"

Last edited by Newt; 12/22/18 06:51 AM.

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Re: First snare [Re: TintedSnow] #6405826
12/22/18 10:40 AM
12/22/18 10:40 AM
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Louisiana
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Sure locks are the only locks I use that bend, and it’s the only bend I make with that lock. I just really like that bend with sure locks, because they fire lickety-split, close tight, and don’t slip. Caught a handful of hogs by the snout with them like this while I was still hog snaring, even though I’ll admit that I’m not sure how or why that happens.


As for the end stop, you got me there! Made up a half dozen small hog/large coyote loop snares a while back, and I used end stops for some reason. Normally I only use annealed 1/4” nuts for 7/64” snares, threaded mini end stops for almost everything smaller.


Works for me, and if no one else does it the way I do, it won’t make a bit of difference to me. It’s all just visitin’ anyway


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