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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: LAtrapper] #6403026
12/19/18 01:11 PM
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Already off the table... yesterday's news.

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: LAtrapper] #6403030
12/19/18 01:17 PM
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Trump's never had any guts to pursue legislation. I've said all along Congress would be Radar and Trump would be Henry Blake. He'll sign anything put in front of him.

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: Finster] #6403040
12/19/18 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Finster
Yup, it's your right to vote that way. That's for sure. I'm also sure the DemoRats will thank you for your vote. Sure as I'm typing, a vote for anyone other than the GOP is a vote for the DemoRats even when you vote for God or Jesus. So, in essence, you are voting for the people that hate you and everything you stand for. Good luck with hunting and trapping when they all come to power. Yup,...…..Vote on.


A vote for the GOP in 2016 was a vote for a man who supports an assault weapons ban, a bump stock ban, a ballooning national deficit, and more war. Finster, do you approve of any of those things?

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: LAtrapper] #6403050
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Figured you guys who won't vote for the only party that will defend guns would be all over this, lol.

Goose, when did he ban assault weapons? Think if us with guts allowed Hillary in, there would be a REAL chance they would be on the chopping block? I do.

These bumpstocks are going right where i said they would on your other thread....In with automatics. That is not a ban.

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: LAtrapper] #6403055
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Just take a minute and look at how the swamp is chewing him up. What do you think they'd do to G. Johnson had lightning struck?
We'd be wayyyyyy worse off than we are now.

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: Chamacat] #6403058
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Originally Posted by Chamacat
Yep..Holy cripes just read he's having trouble over his wall funding....But 10.6 BILLION dollars of YOUR TAX money is going to MEXICO and CENTRAL AMERICA!!!!!!! It was just the other day he was saying he was cutting funding...WHAT IS GOING ON


Yea I saw that. Its unreal. Our own government wont approve funding to secure our border yet think nothing of giving away billions of our tax dollars to other countries. This is despite the fact that just last week HS said they caught 73 terrorists crossing the southern border....

What is going on is our Govt is broken, thats it nothing else really to say. DJT had two chances to secure wall funding and he's blown both opportunities, he wont get a third. Im not so sure he ever really intended to build the wall to be honest. The US govt is run by globalists elites, it really is that simple. The Rs had both houses and still got nothing of consequence done. Even the latest supreme court picks sided with the left on the last two cases, so I wouldnt hold my breath thinking they are going to overturn anything, they are bought and paid for too.


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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: hippie] #6403061
12/19/18 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Figured you guys who won't vote for the only party that will defend guns would be all over this, lol.

Goose, when did he ban assault weapons? Think if us with guts allowed Hillary in, there would be a REAL chance they would be on the chopping block? I do.

These bumpstocks are going right where i said they would on your other thread....In with automatics. That is not a ban.


How do they plan to enforce that?

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: LAtrapper] #6403064
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Don't know Mike.
I'd have to guess the same way they did when auto's were resricted.

I haven't read the text, but all the reports say they are going under the automatic law. (Reports that i've read, including the one at the head of this thread.)

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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: yukon254] #6403065
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by Chamacat
Yep..Holy cripes just read he's having trouble over his wall funding....But 10.6 BILLION dollars of YOUR TAX money is going to MEXICO and CENTRAL AMERICA!!!!!!! It was just the other day he was saying he was cutting funding...WHAT IS GOING ON


Yea I saw that. Its unreal. Our own government wont approve funding to secure our border yet think nothing of giving away billions of our tax dollars to other countries. This is despite the fact that just last week HS said they caught 73 terrorists crossing the southern border....

What is going on is our Govt is broken, thats it nothing else really to say. DJT had two chances to secure wall funding and he's blown both opportunities, he wont get a third. Im not so sure he ever really intended to build the wall to be honest. The US govt is run by globalists elites, it really is that simple. The Rs had both houses and still got nothing of consequence done. Even the latest supreme court picks sided with the left on the last two cases, so I wouldnt hold my breath thinking they are going to overturn anything, they are bought and paid for too.


It's a swamp! Can't blame Trump for not trying.

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: danny clifton] #6403068
12/19/18 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I have no respect for people who think self defense is not a natural right

the premise of the modern democrat party whether moderate ( whatever that means) or not, is that socialism is a good thing.

charity should be voluntary not mandatory

I have no respect those who want to take my money by force and give it to somebody else. its not much different than the dope fiend who breaks into your home to steal the shotgun your grandad gave you so he can trade it for dope


You should tell that to the Republican's. They hand it out as much as the Dem's do just to a smaller % of the population but a much greater amount. Socialism is socialism no matter who you give it to.

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You only live once, so get over it!

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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: hippie] #6403070
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Originally Posted by hippie
Figured you guys who won't vote for the only party that will defend guns would be all over this, lol.

Goose, when did he ban assault weapons? Think if us with guts allowed Hillary in, there would be a REAL chance they would be on the chopping block? I do.

These bumpstocks are going right where i said they would on your other thread....In with automatics. That is not a ban.


Let's go through this point by point, hippie.

1: The libertarian party and the constitution party, just to name a couple, would do a better job guarding your gun rights than the GOP.

2. I never said he banned assault weapons, just that he supports a ban. You've got to learn to read for comprehension. In his book "The America We Deserve", circa 2001, he stated he supported the assault weapons ban that was in place at the time. So unless you can come up with a newer quote to refute that, I guess it's all we have to go off of.

3. I wonder how you would feel if it had been Obama or perhaps Clinton who banned bumpstocks instead of Trump? You might be a little more riled up I'm guessing.

4. Bump stocks are not going in with automatics. Per the 1986 gun control act, civilians can't own any machine gun manufactured after 1986. All bumpstocks were manufactured after 1986, so they cannot be owned by any civilian, period. It's a complete ban. It's not like automatics where you can buy one with the proper tax stamp and background check, there is no way for anyone to own a bump stock. It's written right in the rule from the DOJ/ATF. You're flat out wrong on that one.

5. On my previous thread about this I stated that I'd publicly apologize and proclaim Trump to be a defender of the 2nd amendment if the bumpstock ban didn't come to fruition. I guess for now I don't owe that apology, but I'll still do it if this eventually gets knocked down by the courts.

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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: LAtrapper] #6403071
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Perhaps some patriot will keep his legally purchased bumpstock, be arrested and challenge the National Firearms Act similarly to U.S. vs. Miller case where the defendant and his lawyer didn't show up to court. Hopefully this time the bumostocker shows up and the whole NFA is deemed Unconstitutional.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Miller

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: Marty] #6403076
12/19/18 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Do you think taking my money by force and giving it to someone else is a good thing ?


Way too many on the do not work gravy train. Unfortunately it looks like the USA will continue to keep sliding downhill......It looks like it is just a matter of time until the progressives get their agenda rolling full steam again. Just looking at the way Colorado has gone downhill is a prime example.


Doesn't matter who you are giving that money to. Weather it be poor people,illegal's or CEO's,land owner's,bank's,corporation's,foreign nation's or stock holder's. You think they are only giving it to the do not work gravy trainer's ? socialism is socialism.


You only live once, so get over it!

Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: LAtrapper] #6403078
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You guys don't understand, i don't like any gun resrtiction, just that i also know enough that there is one party, and one only that gives us a fighting chance and it isn't some off-breed group.

Cry all ya want and throw a vote that benefits the Dems so ya'll feel better. I won't.

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: hippie] #6403079
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Originally Posted by hippie
You guys don't understand, i don't like any gun resrtiction, just that i also know enough that there is one party, and one only that gives us a fighting chance and it isn't some off-breed group.

Cry all ya want and throw a vote that benefits the Dems so ya'll feel better. I won't.


Neither party gives us a better chance. Voting party lines is why we are in this mess. The 2 party system is just an illusion of choice.

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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: LAtrapper] #6403080
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Another Pennsylvanian Putz.

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You guys better behave or Santa won't stop at your house!

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: hippie] #6403082
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Originally Posted by hippie
You guys better behave or Santa won't stop at your house!



If i see some guy crawling around on my roof in a red jump suite he's getting bumpstocked !


You only live once, so get over it!

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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: hippie] #6403083
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Originally Posted by hippie
. . . just that i also know enough that there is one party, and one only that gives us a fighting chance and it isn't some off-breed group. . . .


Interesting.

Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks- [Re: hippie] #6403084
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Originally Posted by hippie
You guys better behave or Santa won't stop at your house!







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