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When it comes to government handout's I believe the wording in the Constitution is "general welfare" NOT "specific group's".
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You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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I propose new legislation
the banning or reclassification of anything that is legal to make it illegal a crime just to own not even use shall take a 2/3 majority of both houses.
this is bad government plane and simple .
NO confiscation with out representation!
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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I propose new legislation
the banning or reclassification of anything that is legal to make it illegal a crime just to own not even use shall take a 2/3 majority of both houses.
this is bad government plane and simple .
NO confiscation with out representation! Confiscation without representation is exactly what it is. It was a rule change not voted on by any elected official. It was introduced as an idea by Trump and then made into a rule by the DOJ/ATF. Back in the 1700's we started a violent revolution when our tea got taxed without representation. Now some people bend over and take it because they gotta support the GOP, because in their mind that's their only choice.
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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Didn't read all the comments on this thread,
But I have read the constitution, and have a diploma which means I passed English class and understand what
"Shall not be infringed" means It's actually very simple no matter "how you feel" or what you think about "common sense gun legislation"
That's all I have to say on this thread
Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!
If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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Goose, when did he ban assault weapons? He's talking about a line in Trump's book published almost two decades ago, same as James back on page two of this feeding frenzy. It's a classic "Not-my-President" talking point. Didn't you know that only liberals and libertarians are allowed to change their minds? Republicans are not.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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Two questions lugnut...
1. Do you have any evidence to show that Trump has changed his mind regarding an assault weapons ban? If not, then why should we assume he has? You know what happens whon one assumes, after all....
2. If Hillary Clinton came out tomorrow and said she's a changed woman, she thinks that "Shall not be infringed" means "Shall not be infringed", and that any and all gun laws are unconstitutional, would you believe her? And if not, why would you believe Donald Trump?
Presidents, all people in fact, are allowed to change their mind, but you need to show me some sort of evidence besides a change in political party to prove it.
(Also, Trump is my president.)
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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Two questions lugnut...
1. Do you have any evidence to show that Trump has changed his mind regarding an assault weapons ban? If not, then why should we assume he has? You know what happens whon one assumes, after all....
2. If Hillary Clinton came out tomorrow and said she's a changed woman, she thinks that "Shall not be infringed" means "Shall not be infringed", and that any and all gun laws are unconstitutional, would you believe her? And if not, why would you believe Donald Trump?
Presidents, all people in fact, are allowed to change their mind, but you need to show me some sort of evidence besides a change in political party to prove it.
(Also, Trump is my president.) Good points. I knew Trump felt that way about the assault ban years ago, and he hasn't done anything since he was sworn in to make me think he has in fact changed his mind.
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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Goose, when did he ban assault weapons? He's talking about a line in Trump's book published almost two decades ago, same as James back on page two of this feeding frenzy. It's a classic "Not-my-President" talking point. Didn't you know that only liberals and libertarians are allowed to change their minds? Republicans are not. Yea, just trying to justify throwing his vote away. Ever notice they can't wait to throw the Republicans under the bus? Here's my thinking...... Just look back thru this thread. See any of the Trump haters blaming the Dems for not going along with the border wall? If Trump could get a dozen Dems on his side, he would be building the most beautiful wall ya ever saw! Like i said on my very first post on this one, i knew before opening it who the players would be. They might convince themselves, but that's as far as that goes. Another thing.......... Republicans are the minority now, to answer someone. We just got lucky and caught them sleeping the last election. I doubt that will happen again, so ya'll better get ready for Biden or Harris.
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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LOL, That's funny SNIPPERBBB
Why not, they voted for it before?
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Yea, just trying to justify throwing his vote away. Ever notice they can't wait to throw the Republicans under the bus? Hippie you stated that I'm trying to justify throwing away my vote, but you seem desperate to justify voting for a man who's actions and past statements show he isn't a 2nd amendment supporter. And you still haven't shown any evidence that he doesn't support an assault weapons ban.
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La pervenche est une tr�s belle couleur!!
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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LOL, That's funny SNIPPERBBB
Why not, they voted for it before? Then and now.
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Re: Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks-
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Yea, just trying to justify throwing his vote away. Ever notice they can't wait to throw the Republicans under the bus? Hippie you stated that I'm trying to justify throwing away my vote, but you seem desperate to justify voting for a man who's actions and past statements show he isn't a 2nd amendment supporter. And you still haven't shown any evidence that he doesn't support an assault weapons ban. Probably because i don't feel i owe you one. I'm not the one here that's giddy about this.
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