As SNIPERBBB mentioned, the formula ODNR uses for determining restitution is: (gross score-125) 2 x $1.65 plus $500.

It seems they are promoting antler worship by placing a higher value on bigger racks. Why is that giant buck anymore valuable than a basket six or a nice fat doe for meat?

They've affixed a dollar amount to bragging rights.

I wonder though, where will the 28thou. end up. I've been told alot of the outdoorsman funds get rerouted.

Antler worship -- Danny is spot on. I don't have much use for these meadow carp. They eat off my garden. This antler worship horseship is a problem. I don't know how many hunters tell me they saw all kinds of does and wouldn't shoot them because they are afraid they'll scare off Bullwinkle. Farmers can get a depredation permit, and shoot the gol-darn things all night long. This "one buck only" crap stems directly from antler worship. Why can't the man kill two bucks???? Answer, because they have horns.

Antler worship it is and it gets worse every year. If we all had to go back a few decades in time where we viewed these large bucks as food and everyone of us had to hunt for any meat we could consume everyone here would support the man for providing for his family.
Our herded up can’t think for myself society has criminalized fish and game laws to an absurd level period. Mine mine mine me me me a wild free ranging animal belongs to no one. The others poked their nose into some one else business out of anger, jealousy, antler worshipping,
True story here a young man hunting his parents property 18 years old. Shot a buck immediately after it jumped a fence onto his parents property. The deer bolted and fell dead on the other side of fence. He retrieved it checked it in by phone and while on the phone the southern contingent of antler worshipping deer lease fanatics confronted him and jerked the deer out of the boys truck and took it away from him. He and dad called the game warden and they confiscated the deer, kept it until it couldn’t be mounted or eaten after 2!years gave the boy the rack and said he did nothing wrong but admonished him for crossing the line to get his deer.
The antler worshiper was an illegal guide, fined and lost hunting privileges in the state for a couple years. Can’t remember the fine but it was pittance for what he done to this young man. Had the boy shot the deer across the line no telling what kind of criminal they would have made him out to be. They crawled the field over to try and disprove the boys story but it was rock solid as he had ejected the casing and it was found where he said and so was the blood splatter from the bullet strike. They sure tried pinning an illegal kill on this boy but he was rock solid
These were grown men why can’t we be proud for someone else anymore? “Stop this hate”

Hal is spot on... "meadow carp"

I would be very surprised if that deer was not of domestic deer stock. The Mount Hope Auction, where many thousands of domestic white tailed deer have been sold is right next to Millersburg. It would also explain why the buck appeared to wander aimlessly.

Keith

So what do they charge for illegally shooting a doe or button buck? Just $500.00?

Keith

I'm don't know, but that was what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure they aren't charging tens of thousands for poaching those animals. The big money is for poaching the big bucks.

Trophy poaching has to have a big fine, should help pay for law enforcement and curtail some poaching, he should loose privileges longer than a couple years

Poaching, no matter what the animal, should have a fine big enough to be a deterrent. Higher amounts should not be placed on bigger racks.

Privileges yes but $28000 dollar for a “glorified” goat?

I'm surprised the Quality Deer Management people haven't lobbied for a program for horn poachers like sex offenders have. The government could pay to print the photographs of known offenders so that QDMrs could pepper them up on every tree next to their 'let them go let them grow' signs.

I'll stick by my last post on this subject but just for the moment I'll address the "antler worship" aspect. Let's say that's a fact, I agree that it probably had bearing on the decision. However, it would go to the "degree" of the crime. This is far from unheard of. For instance, you get a $100 fine for going 55mph in a 50mph zone but get $1000 fine for going 85mph in the same 50mph zone. You'll get 100 hours of community service and $100 fine for shoplifting a pack of smokes but you'll get 3 years in prison and a $25,000 fine for stealing a tractor trailer amount of the same product. See where this is going. It's the degree of the crime. So I can see where a judge would feel that a trophy buck is going to be a higher degree of a crime than some doe. This is nothing new in criminal justice, happens every day. This just happens to be something that more people can relate to because of our insite and in doing so, form more than the average opinion.

no such thing as a trophy buck.

steal a semi you interfere with somebodies means of earning a living

55 in a fifty is less dangerous to the public than 100 in a 50 mph zone.

whether you kill a button buck or a world record you may have taken food from another predator but nothing more than that. you certainly haven't hurt deer populations any

its time to get past this trophy hunting nonsense. it was created by and continues to be fostered by people selling magazines, tv shows, people leasing hunting rights, high fence hunting, guides, cabela's and bass pro shops. it is destroying our outdoor heritage fostering jealousy and all manner of stupid regulations and laws.

If you plug in 0 for the gross score you $26281.25, that is if he actually meant squared with the 2 ( ^2). If not it does not work for the guy in the original post.
If you go with the first equation posted {(gross score - 100)^2 X 1.65 + 500} then you get $17000. This one works for the amish guys fine.

Plain as day. The bigger the horns, the bigger the fine.
$1,000 dollars for going 85 in a 50.
$25,000 (plus) for stealing a trailer load of smokes (Quick google search, 57,000 cartons)
$28,000 for shooting a wild goat with big horns.

85 in a 50 endangers other people. Big horns don't
Those cigs have to be worth about $50 a carton so -- $2,850,000 and you want that to be a $25,000 fine? So the deer with big horns is worth more than $2.8 million?
There is no intrinsic value in deer horns. They are only of value to those who follow that cult. A $28,000 fine is entirely out of line.

Yep a man from the South came in here with lots of credit started a guide service and wow in a couple years they were killing one B/C every year. Photos in the news, records on Ky fish and game, county recognition, this goes on about 7-8 years. I own farm right next door and we never see these deer on camera or while cropping nor does anyone in the community. He ends up getting busted in Georgia for game violations and loses the ground up here
Was supposed to be an absolute auction I had high bid until they let him buy it back. Anyway he loses everything and next several years no more B/C bucks come off that ground. Go figure “farmed deer “ for their antlers bought and sold and advertise to get high dollar clients to pay for guided hunts.
They wonder why common folks are sick of this glamorous deer hunting out of million dollar lodges and grain fed steroid infused deer. That’s real hunting.

If you plug in 0 for the gross score you $26281.25, that is if he actually meant squared with the 2 ( ^2). If not it does not work for the guy in the original post.
If you go with the first equation posted {(gross score - 100)^2 X 1.65 + 500} then you get $17000. This one works for the amish guys fine. [/quote]

Antlered deer minimum is 250

What a bunch of snobbish boobs we have here, dictating to those who like to antler hunt how hunting should be done !!
Y'all either democrats trying to boss every one around or so dang jealous you can't just go any where any more to hunt you don't know what to do with you selves.

Brag about them coyotes y'all trap, otters and large beaver to, reds and grey's until your blue in the face, but some one
shoots a big deer and get's a large fine for it and your all bird shot over it, LOL, y'all are so spoiled having so many deer in your area ya don't know what it's like to have to really hunt for them !!

Go and shoot them meat deer, no one say's ya can't, but don't be downing no one if they like to hunt for antlers either, ya got no grounds for that !! Yea and of course poaching is a different matter, but it seems from some of the wicked comments about antler hunters y'all would hang them up as well !!

Large fines are supposed to be a deterrent to poaching the big deer, whether it works or not is only proven until it's used in the area, works here fine, it's supposed to keep the bigger deer to pass on genes, little deer ya don't know what they got so the fine is smaller, should not be I agree but we don't get to set the rules, we just have to abide by them.

By the way I don't see none of y'all marching up to those peoples private properties telling them they got no right to lease their land out to hunters either, but y'all sure are short on praising them for making use of the land when they can't do anything else with it !!

LOL you are missing mine and several others point. Guess the drug dealer didn't sell his drugs intentionely ? LOL The guy that poached the doe that was fined 500 bucks didn't have a clue he was wrong.The armed robber that gets off with 10,000 dollar fine because his dad is rich thought it was his money to take ??? NOONE is saying that he didn't know it was wrong, just that the fine is ridiculous.....