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Army Rangers question #6423445
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new boss at work went to West Point and was a captain in the Army Rangers. How does an officer get assigned to a Ranger company? Do they need to go through Ranger school and qualification like ordinary Rangers?


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Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6423447
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Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6423461
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My brother-in-law was an Army Ranger. He was one of the first 10 to parachute into Grenada in the 80ís

Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6423490
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Yep everyone who goes through. Not uncommon go have majors and private in the same platoon from what the Rangers in my unit have told us.


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Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6423506
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Yes as an officer he would have to make it through Ranger School to earn is Ranger tab plus make it through RASP to be assigned to a Ranger Battalion or Regiment and take command of a company.

Re: Army Rangers question [Re: broncoformudv] #6424051
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Originally Posted by broncoformudv
Yes as an officer he would have to make it through Ranger School to earn is Ranger tab plus make it through RASP to be assigned to a Ranger Battalion or Regiment and take command of a company.


This - plus he had to command a regular Infantry line company first, before he can command in the Regiment.

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Had a good friend who was in the very first Ranger Unit


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Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6424115
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Well, anyone can be a ranger now. Obama ordered combat jobs open to females and now we have girl rangers. Canít be that hard to pass ranger school anymore.


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Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6424137
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Yeah they do. But if they went through just basic Marine boot camp they would be a lot tougher than any Army Ranger. grin


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Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6424146
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Ordinary Ranger, that's funny. I turned 50 in Iraq in the NAVY, I also served in the Army back in the early 70's. The war fighter's technology and methods have changed, so has their profiles. I have seen many War Fighter Women over there, linguists Interagators and other skill sets working with operators in very remote assignments. Remember 3rd world indigenous 'bad guys and girls" have been holding their own in AFGN Iraq, the Horn, Pakistan and SE Asia: Asymmetric warfare has changed the world, I sent female sailors into Iraq working with Army assets and I know their skill sets and how lethal they are and can be. I have seen women with CIB and Bronze Stars (I think if you do a little research you will find a couple silver stars out there also) So ordinary, and women and others issues dont hold water when it comes to mission. Good luck with your ego's.

Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6424157
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Re: Army Rangers question [Re: John Jr.] #6424200
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Originally Posted by John Jr.
Well, anyone can be a ranger now. Obama ordered combat jobs open to females and now we have girl rangers. Canít be that hard to pass ranger school anymore.


Your welcome to go to Ranger school anytime you'd like since it's so easy now. There are about four or five female Rangers and each one earned it. The attrition rate for males is still around 50%. Much higher for females.

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My Brother also went to Grenada. Some call it ego, I thought of him as very self confident.





Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6424387
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Don't confuse Ranger Q course with RASP.

Re: Army Rangers question [Re: doublesettrigger] #6424810
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Officers in the ranger regiment go through a selection process very similar to RASP. While my son was going through RASP he was required to assess and do a peer review on officer candidates going through the process. It is very demanding but the reality is that the spec op units are really run by non coms. My son had several officers in his Ranger days. Several were fantastic others merely ladder climbers hoping for stars.

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Most of our Green Beret and Delta force operators come from Rangers. If I am not mistaken the Rangers rescued Marcus Latrell. Nothing easy about beating feet for miles with a heavy pack and they are known to lead the way. I am very grateful for their service.

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If you look at the regular ranger qualification physical test you know these fine men are in the best physical condition. Pretty sure they have to do a dozen heel claps non stop as one part of the regular qualification.

Heel clap:

Hang on bar with both hands so that your shoulders are at a right angle to the bar above your head. Raise feet above and around the bar and clap your heels together...repeat a dozen times.


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Re: Army Rangers question [Re: Kart29] #6424964
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Been there..and done it.
Also went to Recondo School in Nha Trang conducted by the 5th SF Group. There's never been any unit as gung-ho as those guys.
The school was open to all branches (US and Foreign) to train LRRP Team Leaders. Two of the "students" were Navy SEALS. My buddy and I overheard them complaining about how tough and demanding the school was. When they noticed we were listening, one of them said - "Well... tougher than the Army is supposed to be." We just smiled at them.
The Recondo School was designed to train Team Leaders for the Long Range Recon Patrol and Pathfinder teams which were all volunteer units.

I think it was in '69 the U.S. Army Combat Arms Regimental System (CARS), reorganized all U.S. Army Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol (LRRP) units under the 75th Infantry Regiment (Ranger). All of the Army "students" were members of either Pathfinder or LRRP units and were there to train as team leaders. The school was three weeks long, with the last week being a patrol in a hostile area. One of the "student" teams actually captured an NVA officer. Rank had no place in the school - everyone was a student.
The Recondo School was also known as the in-country Ranger School. Soooo... at that time you could volunteer to be a Ranger. But that was a long time ago.


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You got that right. There is a few good books that describe the warriors of that time on LRRP. Hunting the Jackal by Bill Waugh. He fought from Korea through the Second invasion of Iraq. I have a signed copy of his book. Reflections of a Warrior by Franklin Miller, Ranger who went into SOG and earned a Metal of Honor and the book, Across the Fence, another member of SOG.




Originally Posted by ShawneeMan
Been there..and done it.
Also went to Recondo School in Nha Trang conducted by the 5th SF Group. There's never been any unit as gung-ho as those guys.
The school was open to all branches (US and Foreign) to train LRRP Team Leaders. Two of the "students" were Navy SEALS. My buddy and I overheard them complaining about how tough and demanding the school was. When they noticed we were listening, one of them said - "Well... tougher than the Army is supposed to be." We just smiled at them.
The Recondo School was designed to train Team Leaders for the Long Range Recon Patrol and Pathfinder teams which were all volunteer units.

I think it was in '69 the U.S. Army Combat Arms Regimental System (CARS), reorganized all U.S. Army Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol (LRRP) units under the 75th Infantry Regiment (Ranger). All of the Army "students" were members of either Pathfinder or LRRP units and were there to train as team leaders. The school was three weeks long, with the last week being a patrol in a hostile area. One of the "student" teams actually captured an NVA officer. Rank had no place in the school - everyone was a student.
The Recondo School was also known as the in-country Ranger School. Soooo... at that time you could volunteer to be a Ranger. But that was a long time ago.

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