Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
[Re: joepennanti]
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I hear they are pretty nasty. Like a coon. I've never seen 1.
Just a weekend trapper...
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
[Re: joepennanti]
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01/10/19 10:55 PM
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Sorry to correct you but that is not a long tail weasel. It is a short tail. The identifying features are:
Least: Smallest of the weasels, little more than mouse size. Has a very short tail (less than one quarter the combined head and body length) without a black tip.
Short Tail: Best identified by its black tipped tail that is less than half the combined length of the head and body.
Long Tail: The largest weasel. Tail is also black tipped, but is more than half the length of the combination of the head and body.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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01/11/19 01:16 AM
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The body length is only 11 inches which is not unusual for a large short tail weasel.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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The body length is only 11 inches which is not unusual for a large short tail weasel. My experience,records,carcass tracings of weasels that I have measured and mounted show that most large,male long tails are about 11" long,nose to base of tail.The largest I have ever handled was 12",nose to base of tail.I will have to look in my records for short tail measurements but they are noticeably smaller and keep in mind that Joe says his is a female.
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
[Re: joepennanti]
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Congrats Joe, they certainly are beautiful animals.
PC2, you say that you caught them in fisher sets. Then I guess that means that you caught them in the middle of the woods? I have absolutely no experience with this animal and I guess always assumed that you'd catch them along streams such as mink. I wouldn't even have a clue on how to go about targeting one, although I'd love to and then have it mounted. They certainly are beautiful.
You can't cheat the mountain pilgrim. Mountain's got its own ways.
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
[Re: joepennanti]
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01/11/19 09:24 AM
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all mine came from old growth hemlock with really rocky areas nearby.honestly i'm finding the weasel are about everywhere the fisher are.have a dozen ready to set for them for fun while i putter with fox and beaver.
on weasel strength-the biggest i caught was in a 4 coiled 2 bridger,which they were all caught in,and he was draggin it around tryin to get a piece of me.i was dumbfounded not that it takes much.
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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all mine came from old growth hemlock with really rocky areas nearby.honestly i'm finding the weasel are about everywhere the fisher are.have a dozen ready to set for them for fun while i putter with fox and beaver.
on weasel strength-the biggest i caught was in a 4 coiled 2 bridger,which they were all caught in,and he was draggin it around tryin to get a piece of me.i was dumbfounded not that it takes much. For it being my first bit of weasel information, I thank you. I had no clue. That's hilarious about pulling the trap around wanting a piece of you. I was guessing that you'd use a 1.5 CS tight against a rock face in that old growth. Again, no experience so I'm just thinking common sense in my mind. I'm going to message you. I feel bad and like I'm hijacking this thread. Again Joe, congrats Brother! Thank you for putting this animal/thought/desire to trap into my mind.
You can't cheat the mountain pilgrim. Mountain's got its own ways.
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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I'm going to have to agree with bctomcat as well. The longtail weaselsshould have a significantly longer tail. Least. Short tail. Longtail. Short tail. Longtail. (both males) Ps. I'm no expert so feel free to try and prove me wring
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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Another indication is body size with adults generally:
Short Tail body length = 13" Long Tail body length = 16"
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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The tail is less than 1/2 the combined head and body length as far as I can tell from the picture thus, it's a short tail.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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You are welcome Joe. I enjoy your posts.
SGT USMC 72-75 Member DAV,MTA,ITA,NRA
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Re: New York State Long-tailed Weasel (M. frenata)
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same here,been a good post.i will be setting for them now as i see sign,except the one that lives around my furshed/shop.he's been there 3 yrs and i haven't saw a chipmunk,mouse or anything like that since i started seein him.heck the look on peoples faces when you are sitting there talking and he walks by like he owns the place is worth havin him around.will take some pics of places and sets as i play with them more.
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