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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425604
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Nothing Is cast In stone.

It say's small shippers MAY have to pay more In the future.


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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: wy.wolfer] #6425630
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Originally Posted by wissmiss
The buyer commissions are established at the beginning of each season. They are published in each catalog. Three fees -

5.5 % of hammer price

Per pelt commission that varies by species

Per pelt packing fee that varies by species

On some low grade items, you pay more in fees than you do hammer price.

And on some not so low grade items the additional CITIES fees are pretty stiff. Buyers pay $7 USD. for each otter and ten bucks for each cat. This certainly affects how much a buyer wants to pay for a trappers skins at auction, on top of all the other fees and commissions.


If that doesn't include the $2 fee to the trapper for the otter, then that is $9 CITES fee for otters that sell for $30 average. I only get paid $1 to fill out a whole page of information with size, sex, month of harvest of each otter and squeeze those plastic tags through those tiny otter eyes. Man! Am I a sucker? blush

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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: wissmiss] #6425716
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
The CITES fees are already included in one of the above fees, not sure which one. It might be the packing fee. Last time I checked, the packing fee on a Wolf was $20.00, which included the CITES paperwork.



So they charge the seller and the buyer for CITES paperwork??

Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: The Beav] #6425719
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Nothing Is cast In stone.

It say's small shippers MAY have to pay more In the future.


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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425782
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9 percent or 20 percent of nothing is still nothing isn't it? lol


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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425799
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Hope the next sale is better than the last one. Some left-overs sold and it's not pretty!


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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425803
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So, is WFSC membership now $50 a year? If they charged me $100 in Dec for membership, I'm now paid up through Dec 2020...?


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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425858
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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425910
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Yup - both buyers and sellers pay for CITES paperwork.

Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425922
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Good luck with that. When an auction company cuts a deal with a buyer to purchase 70 thousand Coon without another buyer in the room is pretty concerning. Fha for me now. The popular fire sale. No wonder the trucks were empty.

Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: handitrapper] #6425930
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Originally Posted by handitrapper
Originally Posted by SkyeDancer
I think I read in ITS that they were going to charge higher fees on those who have less then $100 worth of fur


LMAO!! That’s a good way to attract new shippers. Takes quite a bit of fur to exceed $100 now. Considering what they’ve been selling for as of late. ..
....to do that.....it will average out to be about 101 coon
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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: NonPCfed] #6425932
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
So, is WFSC membership now $50 a year? If they charged me $100 in Dec for membership, I'm now paid up through Dec 2020...?


It's $100.00 for 4 years which gives you the reduced commission rate of 9% instead of the regular 11%.

Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425938
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Jim,ask them if I pay 200 for 4 years if I can I knock it down to 7%?

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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425939
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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6425951
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Uh huh. Tell that to all the mad shippers. It is an auction house. You know where buyers go to bid on your fur.

Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: hudsonfur] #6425953
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Small shippers may pay more. OK Then a couple can pool their collections and grade them out roughly and send them in a composite format. No big deal. One will get the commission back quicker as well.

I can see a raise to help function as an organization. 9% of a $20 coon is $1.80. 11% of a $10 coon is $1.10. It is harder to pay for the shippers savings when prices are lower but then prices are lower throughout the industry as well.

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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Boco] #6425954
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Originally Posted by Boco
Jim,ask them if I pay 200 for 4 years if I can I knock it down to 7%?


What you going back to the 1980 rates Boco............then maybe the same prices for lynx then that would be grand..grand.. GRAND or in plain English $ 1000.00 a lynx

Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: wissmiss] #6425973
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Yup - both buyers and sellers pay for CITES paperwork.



I wonder if both sides will get a certification and traceability fee? What's your vision for 2020 say? smile


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Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6426010
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Auctions work well when demand exceeds supply, creating competition. When supply exceeds demand, not so much.

Re: NAFA To Increase Their Commisions? [Re: Trapper7] #6426078
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by wy.wolfer

And on some not so low grade items the additional CITIES fees are pretty stiff. Buyers pay $7 USD. for each otter and ten bucks for each cat. This certainly affects how much a buyer wants to pay for a trappers skins at auction, on top of all the other fees and commissions.


If that doesn't include the $2 fee to the trapper for the otter, then that is $9 CITES fee for otters that sell for $30 average. I only get paid $1 to fill out a whole page of information with size, sex, month of harvest of each otter and squeeze those plastic tags through those tiny otter eyes. Man! Am I a sucker? blush


Dang, sounds like Alaska sucks. I pay $0.25 for a CITES tag, and don't have to fill out any paperwork.

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