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Stainless conibears? #6410276
12/27/18 12:32 PM
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Chris Lillehoff Offline OP
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Any coastal guys especially boat trappers have any of the stainless 120s by Oneida Victor?


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Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6410337
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I've wondered the same thing myself. I don't know if there is any such thing as stainless steel springs though; that could be the only weak link I can think of.


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Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6410443
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Victor still list them on their web page 120's for 11$
Remember seeing some in a collection in the 80's from a trapper from the tidal areas of Louisiana that came up here to Manitoba. There was no problem with spring tension.
Just one problem no victor 110 or 120 are certified to use on land sets in Canada under the rules.

Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6410463
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You can use them for mink and rats.Too weak for marten.

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Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6410539
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Chris,
Yes, they are all stainless, except the setting/safety hooks. Really good traps, for inverted flower pot/ box sets. They don't keep them in stock though, they custom make up your order, and getting ahold of OV is kind of hit and miss. One other thing to realize is being stainless, they are really hard to dye or paint, normal logwood dye will not cover the shine! They have a pretty short chain too. All in all, pretty good traps, they have their pluses and minuses, just like ANY brand of bodygrip. Big thing is, no worry of rust making triggers rough, and NO maintenance required. The triggers are much more sensitive than the Canadian bodygrips, so using strictly trigger wires, they perform better than the Canadian brands. I tend to use pan fired Belisles in my horizontal or angled boxes, and the stainless OV #120's in the inverted sets, with the trigger/ dog off to the side, on the upper jaw, closest to the tree, with an L trigger configuration. No trigger or dog contact on strike that way, and no straddled trigger wires. Need more info, PM me.

Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6410557
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Newt made some 110s called jack frosts.....all stainless...i love em
Wish I didn't get rid of all of them

Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6410635
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Thanks for the info guys. I have a few friends that are using them for the first season and definitely noticed the safetyís arenít stainless but springs are. OV quoted me $58 for shipping to Sitka for 3 doz so Iím gonna give them a rip. Boco, why donít you believe they would be strong enough for marten, no complete closure?


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Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Boco] #6410640
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Originally Posted by Boco
You can use them for mink and rats.Too weak for marten.


Read the regs. again. Any jaw type trap set as a submersion set that exerts clamping force on a muskrat and maintains a muskrat underwater.
I believe that Ontario also moved that all uncertified 120's can not be set for mink if not certified for marten on the ground.
mink are not in the list of animals

Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6410643
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They failed the aihts.They didn't kill enough marten quick enough to pass.I found less damage on marten also with the stronger traps.Used to see rub holes with the weaker traps when there was a single strike to the neck or under the armpits.

Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: waggler] #6410964
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Originally Posted by waggler
I've wondered the same thing myself. I don't know if there is any such thing as stainless steel springs though; that could be the only weak link I can think of.



Yes, you can get stainless springs.

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Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6415453
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You can dull stainless by soaking in muriaric acid.when it gets as dull as you want,neutralize in a strong,baking soda solution.Time will vary,depending on the grade of SS.I have dulled SS,marine swivels that looked like polished chrome.They came out a nice,dull gray.

Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6423119
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I have Stainless 110 springs for sale
$2.50 ea.


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Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Northof50] #6426657
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Originally Posted by Northof50
Originally Posted by Boco
You can use them for mink and rats.Too weak for marten.


Read the regs. again. Any jaw type trap set as a submersion set that exerts clamping force on a muskrat and maintains a muskrat underwater.
I believe that Ontario also moved that all uncertified 120's can not be set for mink if not certified for marten on the ground.
mink are not in the list of animals

Originally Posted by Northof50
Originally Posted by Boco
You can use them for mink and rats.Too weak for marten.


Read the regs. again. Any jaw type trap set as a submersion set that exerts clamping force on a muskrat and maintains a muskrat underwater.
I believe that Ontario also moved that all uncertified 120's can not be set for mink if not certified for marten on the ground.
mink are not in the list of animals


What you heard was exactly what itís worth , nothing lol , no such Ontario Regs , and there is about 35 different body grips certified for use on land for muskrats including the stainless Victor ones


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Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6426867
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Always ends up a Canadian thing, eh? Tune in dudes, the OP is from SE AK.

Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Chris Lillehoff] #6426908
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Just corrected some mis information,by a poster.

Re: Stainless conibears? [Re: Boco] #6426947
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I get it.

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