Re: Mississippi red wolf
[Re: tdtrapper]
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01/16/19 12:16 AM
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That biologist needs to do some research. There is no such thing as a "red wolf" species. Not to say that one cannot call a different looking coyote with gray wolf blood in it whatever one wants to so that one can differentiate it from other regular looking/behaving coyotes. The USFWS abandoned a multi-million dollar red wolf reintroduction project in North Carolina once recent advancements in DNA decoding showed them to be hybrids, of varying degrees, between coyotes and gray wolves. BTW, I have seen these animals up close, and they are remarkably different in appearance than a coyote. "Fine animal" describes it to a tee!
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/16/19 12:37 AM
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My wife owns a screen print and embroidery shop. Her patience guy came by yesterday. He had been at his property near Woodville Mississippi deer hunting. He checked his deer cams and there he is perfect picture of him in broad daylight. He told my wife in the past couple years they had heard them at night and sounded alot different than coyotes. I gotta learn how to put pics on here. They called biologist they confirmed it was definitely one. I have sent the pics to mark June and cletis Richards maybe they can post pics for y'all to see. Fine animal. Not trying to be a wise guy here but what is a "patience guy" ?? Maybe it's the guy who collects the vig? Osky
"A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/16/19 06:59 AM
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Red wolves are a coyote/grey wolf hybrid(per dna testing) in N C. You don’t want them. The USFW along with their conservation partner the red wolf coalition have used a hybrid mutt to milk the us taxpayers for $35 million plus all while limiting property rights. Whatever they tell you as far as any deal goes is purely a lie and they’ve got a federal judge that uses ESA to back them up. Google red wolf scandal. Better yet click on this link. Red wolf scandal
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/16/19 02:27 PM
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Yes sir
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How ancient does the cross between grey wolf coyote have to be for them to become a red wolf? My understanding is there are thousands if not millions of animals running around with these genetics.
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/17/19 08:46 AM
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So if it is 60/40 it's a red wolf? Then if it mates back with a wolf or coyote is it a hybrid red wolf? That's right. Just like when Obama who is 50% white and 50% black was elected president he was the first African American president of the U.S. Things are twisted and contorted by the media to become whatever they want them to become. We the sheeple are just supposed to be dumbed down enough to go along with it.
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/17/19 11:45 AM
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So a "biologist" looked at a picture and confirmed that it was a red wolf. Hmm, I would question his credentials. Even if there is such a thing as a "red wolf" the only way to really confirm it would be by genetic analysis.
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/17/19 12:32 PM
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^^^^^ I think that line of thought may be a little out of date regarding "red-wolves", or at the very least in question at the present time. New genetic research into the issue is causing many biologists to rethink positions that were held to be fact in the recent past.
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/17/19 12:35 PM
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^^^^^ I think that line of thought may be a little out of date regarding "red-wolves", or at the very least in question at the present time. New genetic research into the issue is causing many biologists to rethink positions that were held to be fact in the recent past. How so, waggler? Not being smart, I'm actually interested. Ive always been very into genetics and currently work in medical research and genetics is the new up and coming key to unlocking the potential for many treatments of historically untreatable diseases.
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/17/19 12:46 PM
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It looks like there may be a change in the red wolf status from a separate species, to simply a hybrid. They've been talking about that for several years, I doubt it changes for save-faceism.
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/17/19 01:03 PM
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The act of creating species out of hybrids, and due to minor morphological variations within a species should be of concern to us Trapper's.
Such actions are used by and antis and other people with a particular agenda. The same thing is happening in Alaska with wolves, the antis and others have been trying to create what they call the "Alexander archipelago wolf". Thankfully new genetic research is causing them some difficulty with this attempt.
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/17/19 01:10 PM
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white17
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The act of creating species out of hybrids, and due to minor morphological variations within a species should be of concern to us Trapper's.
Such actions are used by and antis and other people with a particular agenda. The same thing is happening in Alaska with wolves, the antis and others have been trying to create what they call the "Alexander archipelago wolf". Thankfully new genetic research is causing them some difficulty with this attempt. Exactly right ! Fortunately one of our TMAN members shot some giant holes in that movement. I'm the furthest thing from a geneticist but just because Red Wolf DNA was extracted from a live individual critter, doesn't necessarily mean that there are live pure bred red wolves running around today.
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Re: Mississippi red wolf
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01/17/19 02:00 PM
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The act of creating species out of hybrids, and due to minor morphological variations within a species should be of concern to us Trapper's.
Such actions are used by and antis and other people with a particular agenda. The same thing is happening in Alaska with wolves, the antis and others have been trying to create what they call the "Alexander archipelago wolf". Thankfully new genetic research is causing them some difficulty with this attempt. Exactly right ! Fortunately one of our TMAN members shot some giant holes in that movement. I'm the furthest thing from a geneticist but just because Red Wolf DNA was extracted from a live individual critter, doesn't necessarily mean that there are live pure bred red wolves running around today. Absolutely agree. For a new species to be recognized, there should be 100's if not 1,000's of years of evolution of the genetic variation to even out before we should even consider naming something as a new species.
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