Armed robbery and murder per capita is down not up. Check the numbers yourself. What there is , is mostly a direct result of the failed war on drugs. This school shooting nonsense would stop if high schools quit telling students no guns in vehicles, wood shop, or lockers . After school hunting or firearm competition is not the problem. Cowards knowing everyone is helpless is the problem.

I don't think anyone is ever going to knock on your door, coming to confiscate your firearms. There's easier ways to do it.

Taxes, burdensome regulations, etc. Politicians can implement these and slowly regulate private firearms ownership to near nil. It will take a lot longer to do it that way but it can be done that way with less expense and need for conflict. The Supreme Court in the Heller decision already said that government has the right to regulate gun ownership.

1. 400% tax on gunpowder and loaded ammunition.
2. ammunition dealers licenses cost $5,000/yr.
3. reporting requirements for all licensed ammunition dealers.
4. expensive gun owners identification required for ownership
5. expensive transfer fees and paperwork requirements for firearms transfers
6. annual safety inspection requirements for each privately owned firearm
7. "safe" storage requirements for all guns in private ownership
8. extensive training and qualification requirements for gun ownership licenses.

the gov doesn't need to come and confiscate your firearms. They can slowly regulate them to near non-existence in a single generation merely by slowly implementing more and more regulations.

I would have to use my time, I would have to travel, order it, put it on, if it will fit on, Every gun uses a different stock. I am not a gunsmith. I purchased an $800 gun , not a bag of parts. Part of that fee was for it to be put together in working order. Fact is, trump has done to gun owners what no other other democrat has done, and that is confiscate property , a gun that was purchased legally and then seize it without compensation. People wanting me to work on a gun, is like asking me to modify my car for polution standards, I'm not a mechanic. What trump has done was start a slippery slope. Please someone tell me you don't think liberals will elaborate on seizing guns when they get into office? LOL And to the person who said my gun does not fall under the 2nd, well what will they reduce us to? BB guns? Spin it anyway you want, Trump is a Gun Grabber, and even worse, is confiscating personal property like they did in Nazi Germany.

I purchased the whole gun new with a bump stock, if it comes off I don’t know, nor do I know if another one can b put on it. I paid a premium for this gun because it was designed for it. It will be worth almost nothing if it was removed and would cost a lot to pay someone to do it. Fact is trump did this, not slick Willy, not Obama, but trump is taking my property without compensation. Failure to do so, 10 years in prison for possession of a full auto

I'm not happy with trump banning bump-stocks but you are either intentionally lying or are just plain ignorant, either way you sound foolish. if your going to argue about some stick to facts not half truths and omissions like politicians do.

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If Obama could have figured out a way to get backing he would have done more than just ban bump stocks. If Obama had his way you'd be hunting deer with slingshots. Take your blinders off!

if your talking to me your preaching to the choir. and if you think banning little things like bump stocks is ok just because it was done by someone "we"voted for you are as blind as you accuse

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I don't think anyone is ever going to knock on your door, coming to confiscate your firearms. There's easier ways to do it.

Taxes, burdensome regulations, etc. Politicians can implement these and slowly regulate private firearms ownership to near nil. It will take a lot longer to do it that way but it can be done that way with less expense and need for conflict. The Supreme Court in the Heller decision already said that government has the right to regulate gun ownership.

1. 400% tax on gunpowder and loaded ammunition.
2. ammunition dealers licenses cost $5,000/yr.
3. reporting requirements for all licensed ammunition dealers.
4. expensive gun owners identification required for ownership
5. expensive transfer fees and paperwork requirements for firearms transfers
6. annual safety inspection requirements for each privately owned firearm
7. "safe" storage requirements for all guns in private ownership
8. extensive training and qualification requirements for gun ownership licenses.

the gov doesn't need to come and confiscate your firearms. They can slowly regulate them to near non-existence in a single generation merely by slowly implementing more and more regulations.

It's already happening.

Have you heard of red flag laws?

Several states already have them, and good ole Minnesota is considering one

Simply stated anyone can petition to the nearest liberal judge with some (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and bull story that implies you may be a danger to yourself or someone. That judge ain't taking no chances. At 3:00 AM you will be awakened by a swat team to confiscate all your guns.

It's already happened, and at least one innocent homeowner has been assassinated.