Land traps freezing
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01/17/19 10:07 AM
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There might already be a thread on this but I wasn't able to find it. I have had the problem with the dirt and everything else freezing up at my coyote/fox sets. I have heard wax dirt is good but it is to late to make that. Any recommendations anyone?
-Bryce
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Re: Land traps freezing
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01/17/19 10:13 AM
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Wax dirt or hay sets have been my go to this season and for the most part they have been working for me. You can also buy wax dirt but I've heard it's a bit spendy if you need it in bulk.
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Re: Land traps freezing
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01/17/19 02:04 PM
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I'll pick up some peat moss and try it out.
-Bryce
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Re: Land traps freezing
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I recently ran out of waxed dirt and made more in the oven. Took the driest dirt I could find. Dried it out in 300 degree oven stirring. Once dried added flake wax and stirred in until waxed.
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Re: Land traps freezing
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01/17/19 02:49 PM
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In my experienced everything freezes... After a thaw and then deep freeze. Peat moss and wax dirt included. I had a fox step right on the pan this morning... Trap was covered with nothing but grass clippings, but still half froze over.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Land traps freezing
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01/17/19 02:55 PM
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Yup, trapping in wet freezing conditions stinks, bone dry dirt will suck up moisture from edges of trap bed within about 5-7 days, without an anti freeze you might need to re bed traps, Even with shale I get some frozen, even if most traps work in those conditions you could see at least a 50% drop in catches, I think because cold makes less odor level, snow covers set taking eye appeal away, add frozen traps and even lower catch rate
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Re: Land traps freezing
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Would you guys recommend to pick up some flake antifreeze? Throw some on the top of the dirt and under where you'd bed your trap?
-Bryce
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Re: Land traps freezing
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01/17/19 04:54 PM
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getting late in winter for canines..if your trapping for prime fur fox and coyote are starting to go backwards fur wise by the middle of January[though there are exceptions]also some of the females will be bred now....
Last edited by marathonman; 01/17/19 04:55 PM. Reason: speling
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Re: Land traps freezing
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Would you guys recommend to pick up some flake antifreeze? Throw some on the top of the dirt and under where you'd bed your trap? yes, my experience is anti freeze will help you alot but it is super corrosive if your equipment isnt waxed. you can sometimes get away with using the dirt right from the set/trap bed even if its a touch wet if you make the set from scratch with some antifreeze. that'll take initial night time freezes and is about all i do in the fall normally. as a step up using dry dirt/peat moss right from the start will be even better and take more cold but you'll probably still find yourself using antifreeze as the dry dirt will suck up some ground moisture and it seems that a rain is inevitable earlier in season. i tend to use dry dirt in the fall if the ground is saturated or we are getting persistent rain. that buys me a few days some times. but the wetter the conditions and cooler temps after you set, the more antifreeze you will need and the more often you will need to re-apply so you end up messing around with the set more often than i like. when it turns super cold and the saturated ground freezes solid setting with dry dirt and some antifreeze will work out fine if it doesnt thaw or rain much. however, weather fluctuation is what causes the most havoc. a good solid day of rain turns most dry material i've tried into a wet mess and if your temps drastically drop it seem no amount of antifreeze will keep it from turning into ice block. not many days ago it was in 50's here. ground was already saturated. then it rained. night time temps now heading to teens, then single digits and then below zero. some of day time temps arent going to get out of teens. i find waxed dirt is about all that gives you a chance then. id use it more in the wet fall but if i do never fails that i;m out come this time of year. and wax dirt isnt fool proof. if the ground below and around is frozen solid and the weather warms with big rain it sometimes will pool in the waxed dirt bed as it can't drain thru ice and youll still end up frozen in place if temp quickly swings back to cold side
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Re: Land traps freezing
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There might already be a thread on this but I wasn't able to find it. I have had the problem with the dirt and everything else freezing up at my coyote/fox sets. I have heard wax dirt is good but it is to late to make that. Any recommendations anyone? I trap dirt that freezes very very hard in Northern Maine. All I need is one pound salt containers. I put salt under, over and around every trap, sometimes it looks like the trap is covered with frost, but the coyotes & fox don't seem to care.
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Re: Land traps freezing
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Open the trap bed and sprinkle. Place the trap and bed, sprinkle. Sift a final layer. One set shouldn't take more than a teaspoon and a half, if that.
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Re: Land traps freezing
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01/17/19 07:15 PM
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Open the trap bed and sprinkle. Place the trap and bed, sprinkle. Sift a final layer. One set shouldn't take more than a teaspoon and a half, if that.
is that salt it says use on walkway but salt is corrosive to concrete. Is it corrosive to traps? as far as I know salt is very corrosive to metal, so yes it probably will destroy some traps
-Bryce
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