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Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: muskrat95] #6440988
01/26/19 09:42 AM
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If you can drive in rebar you already have a piolet hole. Wiggle it back and forth and then drive in your earth anchor.
I don't think that's to difficult.

Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: muskrat95] #6441008
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Wetdog that makes no sense at all. Why not just stake with the rebar your driving anyway? Disposable stakes are more trouble than they are worth. I dont believe you can wear out a rebar stake. Double as a nose knocker also


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Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: muskrat95] #6441046
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Use a vise grips to help remove re bar. If needed you can snap on the vise grips on the stake it's self then you have a new point to pry from. Just keep moving the vice grips down as you pry out the stake.
I make my stakes with a washer welded about 3/4 of an inch down from the top of the stake. This year I went to just about all 1/2" smooth stakes. It sure makes a difference when It comes to removing them.


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Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: danny clifton] #6441051
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Wetdog that makes no sense at all. Why not just stake with the rebar your driving anyway? Disposable stakes are more trouble than they are worth. I dont believe you can wear out a rebar stake. Double as a nose knocker also

Almost all my trapping are walk lines so weight is an issue. When I pull traps, I just cut the cable and go
I should have explained it better

Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: muskrat95] #6441057
01/26/19 10:46 AM
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I've been useing 3/8 cold roll round for a lot of years now. I started with a rebar and one 3/8 stake, works good through a lap link, and now set a lot with just two 3/8 stakes. Early in the season, I use longer ones, and as it freezes up, go to shorter ones. You can drive them in a steep cross, and have never lost a trap, even in the sandhills!


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Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: muskrat95] #6441060
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How long are they?


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Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: 330-Trapper] #6441068
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Theres frozen, then theres Rock hard Frozen...in rock hard I try it with rebar or tie off to logs!

Yup.


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Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: The Beav] #6441161
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Originally Posted by The Beav
How long are they?
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Gary, the short ones are sixteen inches and the longer ones are twenty four. I don't care for those butterfly double stake thingys, but have never seen one fail. It bothers me to have a thirty pound lunging critter pulling against a 3/16 ths inch rivet sideways! I also quit the split rings a number of years ago when I lost a big yote to one in Ne along with an mj600. was not a happy camper. that split ring was still hooke on the anchor with one end and it was pulled out to where it looked like a pair of glasses.


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Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: muskrat95] #6441197
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Lee I use 16" 1/2" smooth stakes and cross stake. I use the butter fly connections but I run a cable loop through the hole then beat on 2 double ferrules and a washer to secure the loop. Then I make my connection to the trap or snare with quick link.
Or just weld the rivet closed with one chain link.

I was toying with the idea of using smooth 3/8s rods for stakes next year. But I would probably go with a length of 20" but still cross stake In most situations.

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Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: muskrat95] #6441401
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I use rebar with double butterfry 18in. stakes been useing for years. Work great for me.

Re: best way to stake in frozen ground [Re: muskrat95] #6441418
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In the Early '70's I found an article in my Ontario Trappers mag regarding "frost pegs". They were using 12" 1/2" nails. I found some 14" 1/2" smooth nails at a 4 generation hardware store. I used them in the dead of winter when the ground was rock frozen. My 1 1/2 Victors had a lap link in the end.... Never lost a trap.

Now, there were ZERO coyotes where I trapped and I trapped in alfalfa field that were composed of compacted soil, no sand.

I think staking types and depth depends entirely on the soil type you're trapping in.

Maybe I was lucky, but they worked for me. I slide a stainless 1/2" washer underneath and welded to the nail top, with a top bead only. The stainless washer took a lot of beating without distortion and a twist with vise grips released the peg.

Don't know everything, but trying to learn something... Just worked for me.


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