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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432447
01/18/19 11:03 AM
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WOW! Hammered him!

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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432491
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Never been on a buffalo hunt. Are they found in the wild? If so is it legal to take a wild buffalo?

Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432505
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Any pictures of the trophy, hero shots?


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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432519
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Right on. More evidence you don’t need a cannon to get the job done. Good job.


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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432587
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I first used the 308 in 1965 in the Army. We shot up to 400 yards and I was impressed enough so I said when I got home I was going to have one. Bought one used in 69 and have used it every year since. Took a moose with it at 200 yards , ywo steps and was down. I would have no trouble using it on anything in North America.

Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: Ryan McLeod] #6432672
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Originally Posted by Marty
.308 is probably one of the best rifle calibers.

Congrats on your buffalo......how much meat did you get from it?


About 300 lbs. That includes rib bones and liver/heart.

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thrstyunderwater - What kind of scope are you using on that Ruger?


I had a Leupold Vari-X II 3x9x40 for years while I grew up in Missouri. Plenty for Missouri whitetail, Alaska black bear, and Hawaii pigs. Then I got to Utah and realized Kentucky windage only gets you so far. I but a Burris E1 4.5x14 with a long range MOA reticle on it. I like it a lot

https://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes...ries/fullfield-e1-riflescope-4.5-14x42mm

Originally Posted by charles
Never been on a buffalo hunt. Are they found in the wild? If so is it legal to take a wild buffalo?


Depends on your definition of wild. Utah, Montana, Wyoming, and Arizona offer some hunts. This was on a ranch.

Originally Posted by rendezvous
Any pictures of the trophy, hero shots?


[Linked Image]


Originally Posted by Ole Hawkeye
Pat, as usual, you are right....

Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432731
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thanks for the share of your hunt under. enjoyed it. t-man rocks again.

Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: flash] #6432749
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Barnes triple shock bullets are good bullets, just aren't as good BC as many others on the market, I have 2 .308 caliber 168 grain bullets recovered out of my wife's bull bison, 1 was full weight as loaded, the other broke some major bone and broke off the 4 points, her bull was over 2000 pounds live weight, 968 pounds hanging weight, and right at 600 pounds meat.


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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432750
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308 is also good that it is in the power range where professionals get about 1000 rounds out of a barrel before it loses its accuracy. More powerfull loads dramatically reduce barrel life down to about 400 rounds.


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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432842
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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: Cattrax] #6432914
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Originally Posted by Cattrax
Barnes triple shock bullets are good bullets, just aren't as good BC as many others on the market, I have 2 .308 caliber 168 grain bullets recovered out of my wife's bull bison, 1 was full weight as loaded, the other broke some major bone and broke off the 4 points, her bull was over 2000 pounds live weight, 968 pounds hanging weight, and right at 600 pounds meat.


What .308 cal bullets do you prefer? I know you're an avid long distance hunter. What bullets did your wife use?


Originally Posted by Ole Hawkeye
Pat, as usual, you are right....

Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432924
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Beautiful bison. I don't know about anyone else, but I am jealous of that dry ground. Have you sampled the meat?

Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6432991
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Pat, If I remember correctly Cattrax wife was shooting his 300 Win Mag. He likes the Barnes as he and I have discussed the performance and penetration you get shot after shot with them. Tom has been shooting the 26 Nosler with the Berger VLD Hunting Bullets on elk with some incredible shots and quick dispatch.

I have smoked some darn huge boar hogs with the Barnes 53 grain and 62 grain pills out of my 22-250 and .223. The longest shot was with the 250 at just over 500 yards. He dropped like a ton of bricks. I did get an exit too.

I enjoyed our reloading conversations all summer and early fall. Darn happy for you and the critters you harvested this year with your current setups. Job well done my friend.

Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: Marty] #6433150
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Originally Posted by Marty
.308 is probably one of the best rifle calibers.


and cartridges...………....caliber is bullet diameter, I'm thinking.

I knew a family of 5 when I lived in Idaho and each shot a 308 Win and each took elk and muley and antelope every year...…......Great Cartridge!


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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6433153
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Originally Posted by thrstyunderwater
however with an educated guess of 2700 fps at the muzzle, the bullet should have traveled around 2100 fps upon impact.


that info is in the back of a Hornady book, or at least it used to be


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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6435886
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Originally Posted by thrstyunderwater
Originally Posted by Cattrax
Barnes triple shock bullets are good bullets, just aren't as good BC as many others on the market, I have 2 .308 caliber 168 grain bullets recovered out of my wife's bull bison, 1 was full weight as loaded, the other broke some major bone and broke off the 4 points, her bull was over 2000 pounds live weight, 968 pounds hanging weight, and right at 600 pounds meat.


What .308 cal bullets do you prefer? I know you're an avid long distance hunter. What bullets did your wife use?



Pat she used the tipped triple shock 168 grain Barnes, out of her 30-06, it was a touch over 100 yards I believe, we found 2 of them when processing him. I like the Berger bullets for long range stuff, tried some others that were supposed to be long range, they flew well, but they didn't open up at long range like the Bergers do, a couple only pin holes critters, every Berger I used expanded great, the Barnes just don't have the BC to carry like the Bergers, but I like how well the Barnes bullets work though at closer ranges.


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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: traprjohn] #6436472
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Originally Posted by Kansas Cat
Beautiful bison. I don't know about anyone else, but I am jealous of that dry ground. Have you sampled the meat?


It's absolutely remarkable.

Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
Pat, If I remember correctly Cattrax wife was shooting his 300 Win Mag. He likes the Barnes as he and I have discussed the performance and penetration you get shot after shot with them. Tom has been shooting the 26 Nosler with the Berger VLD Hunting Bullets on elk with some incredible shots and quick dispatch.

I have smoked some darn huge boar hogs with the Barnes 53 grain and 62 grain pills out of my 22-250 and .223. The longest shot was with the 250 at just over 500 yards. He dropped like a ton of bricks. I did get an exit too.

I enjoyed our reloading conversations all summer and early fall. Darn happy for you and the critters you harvested this year with your current setups. Job well done my friend.


Thanks a bunch David, I really appreciate your advice!


Originally Posted by traprjohn
Originally Posted by thrstyunderwater
however with an educated guess of 2700 fps at the muzzle, the bullet should have traveled around 2100 fps upon impact.


that info is in the back of a Hornady book, or at least it used to be


Traprjohn, you have great advice too! I don't own a Hornady book, I generated those numbers from ballisticapp.


Originally Posted by Ole Hawkeye
Pat, as usual, you are right....

Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6436478
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I bought my first center fire rifle when I was 13 (ok, I gave my money to my dad who handed it to his friend). It was a .30-06 in a Win 670. Bit of kick for a 145-150 lb kid. Shot my first deer with it when I was a senior in hs (deer tags in my part of SD were a lot harder to get then). My bro finishe dup his first stint in the Army in 1979 and came home with a pile of spent military .308 and a basic reloading die. I bought my first .308 when I was 19 and have shot one ever since.

At the time, a .308 was fairly uncommon as a deer/antelope rifle in SD. That scene was dominated by .30-06, .270, and .243. The .30-06 crowd always used to say, "well, my cartirdge can shoot 300 fps faster than ours so it must be better." Bro and me went to a lighter bullet to get more speed and started off with a 110 grain hollow point (don't judge me, just telling the history of nearly 35+ years ago). The 110 was extremely accurate and killed deer and antelope but it was also messy and I got tired of cutting away more blood shot meat than I probably needed to so I went to a 125 grain load (first Speer, and now Nosler). That load and speed (I figure about 2900 fps with my powder load but never actually tested) has been plenty big for any deer and antelope in this state. I've never shot anything big, such as you did, but I think with patience for the right placement and the right load (such as your Barnes 168), that round can bring down big stuff.

Nice action!! Enjoy the good eats!!!


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Re: I shot a bison with a .308 [Re: thrstyunderwater] #6436560
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Great bison ,should keep you eating well for awhile! Just to echo you don’t need a cannon to anchor these critters. My daughter took a large cow Bison with a marlin1894p 44 mag with 250 cast handloads. Shot through the ribs ,spun, another almost touching shot a half dozen steps and down for the count.

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Very nice picture, well done!


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