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Re: Visa Overstays [Re: loosegoose] #6432637
01/18/19 02:08 PM
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The important word I used was "sure".

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Re: Visa Overstays [Re: loosegoose] #6432677
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by hippie
I'll put more faith in the other research that has been posted.


What other research? Can you direct me to the other research that was posted? I must have missed it. Seriously. I'm open to looking at it.


Ones like the one i posted above.

Even they say there are no hard numbers, just estimates, exp. for the years your article states as fact.

Here it is again...........
https://www.politifact.com/californ...-visa-overstays-account-half-all-people/


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Re: Visa Overstays [Re: loosegoose] #6432700
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From your study...That report estimated visa overstays in 2014 accounted for 42 percent of the total undocumented population, or about 4.5 million people. It also projected that overstays made up about two-thirds of the total number of people who became unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. that year.

Most of the illegals here came through illegal border crossings, that's true. But that's counting all illegals, whether they came here last year or 20 years ago. Most of the people who have come here in the last seven years have come though on overstayed visas.

Re: Visa Overstays [Re: loosegoose] #6432707
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And that's a guess, since there are no hard numbers, as it states.

Re: Visa Overstays [Re: loosegoose] #6432715
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Pretty much goes like this.

If an article is to show a wall won't help, they skew the numbers their way. To show a wall works, they skew them the other way.
Fact is, neither know for sure since about 2006, or if someone in the gov't does, they aint putting the numbers out.

Those articles are trolling articles, imo.

Re: Visa Overstays [Re: loosegoose] #6432761
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Kinda like the global warming studies


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Re: Visa Overstays [Re: loosegoose] #6432851
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Visa overstays are a problem will give you that BUT being our economy is now booming that can change. I do believe when we have groups of THOUSANDS traveling thousands of miles to get here the border being secure FIRST.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...immigrants-arrested-at-new-mexico-border

For a little proof in the pudding.Now we have another group headed here to add to the mess. Patch the biggest holes in you boat before you can hope to bail it out before it sinks. Shut down ALL visas until can find a way to stop the overstayers.


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Re: Visa Overstays [Re: Drifter] #6432852
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Originally Posted by Drifter
Visa overstays are a problem will give you that BUT being our economy is now booming that can change. I do believe when we have groups of THOUSANDS traveling thousands of miles to get here the border being secure FIRST.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...immigrants-arrested-at-new-mexico-border

For a little proof in the pudding.Now we have another group headed here to add to the mess. Patch the biggest holes in you boat before you can hope to bail it out before it sinks. Shut down ALL visas until can find a way to stop the overstayers.


I would agree to that. I've read that the Obama economy is a huge reason that illegal border crossings were/are down, and the Trump economy could easily change that.

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