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Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: bblwi] #6442274
01/27/19 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Good sale for those with the better yotes. Putting this in perspective let us say the 80ish average was $82.50 and the average WI rat is $3.50 that means it takes 23 rats to make a western yote or in this case times 1400 33,000 rats which is some where about 2 to 3 times as many rats as will be caught and sold off the Horicon Marsh this year. Sometimes one just does not have the right commodity to harvest.

Bryce

Who’s numbers are you using?
Your number is close to mine but slightly higher then what I come up with by averaging everything at what was bid.
Thanks


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Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442320
01/27/19 06:06 PM
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So the real question, is it an uptick in price or just better quality this go around making it appear better.It can be read either way.

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: tbn] #6442377
01/27/19 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tbn
So the real question, is it an uptick in price or just better quality this go around making it appear better.It can be read either way.


Why would it be an uptick if the last sale averaged $95 ?

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442499
01/27/19 08:43 PM
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I must get some bad info,lol.

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: Taximan] #6442516
01/27/19 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Taximan
Originally Posted by tbn
So the real question, is it an uptick in price or just better quality this go around making it appear better.It can be read either way.


Why would it be an uptick if the last sale averaged $95 ?


I believe he speaking on historical averages,,,,,, 80.?average is upward move from high 50s and low 60s

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Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442534
01/27/19 09:12 PM
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I would call it a market uptick from last year coupled with a market correction from last week!






Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: Monster Toms] #6442556
01/27/19 09:28 PM
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^^^^^^^^ well put

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Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442562
01/27/19 09:34 PM
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Looks like about a 20% increase in the average price of coyotes from last year. And, about a 20% increase in quantity from last year.

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442617
01/27/19 10:18 PM
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I did not see the fur at the sale, my wife and I do the food .however I do get some news from the guys.
there were 1330 coyotes at the sale and a friend had high coyote at 188.00, I have no news on the sale average but had a guy tell me his average was around 130.00, no idea on number or grade. he does trap some nice high mountain dogs.
It seemed that the mood was good and there were many happy faces.
It will take our ladies a bit to compile everything, they worked Friday night and all day Saturday so they need a rest.
I will post the results when available.

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442651
01/27/19 10:39 PM
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Sounds pretty darn good!

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442797
01/28/19 03:14 AM
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Here is something to think about - starting back in November and continuing throughout the trapping season here in the west, there has been talk in the country about there being a shortage of coyotes. Due to various reasons - warm weather, mange, increased competition in the field, etc. even though the western US is a huge area, there are only a limited number of the really nice coyotes. And the traveling buyers are working the country hard.

So, if the guys backing the country buyers are buying into this notion that there is a shortage of coyotes, is that causing the increase in prices being paid. Just a thought.

The first 2 western fur sales are in the books and it appears there are plenty of coyotes. I think both ITA and Upper Snake offered more coyotes this year than last. Next up is the Colorado sale and I believe they are advertising 4000 plus coyotes. Then Utah and Nevada. Both thosebsales will have plenty of coyotes.

So will these prices hold or will the buyers decide there isn't a shortage of coyotes and back off on the price. Guess we shall see on February 7 in Hugo, Colorado.


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Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442871
01/28/19 08:49 AM
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Interesting Wissmiss,

Or, perhaps coyote production is down somewhat but these sales don't reflect that since the smaller western sales are becoming more popular? I asked earlier about the preliminary announcement of 70,000 coyote at NAFA. Maybe some of these early sales will result in fewer coyote than expected on the larger international auctions?

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6442880
01/28/19 09:17 AM
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We will have over a thousand coyotes at our March sale. I don't think their is any more coyotes, just talking people out of sending them to NAFA. Prices will hold, getting calls all the time asking about my coyote count for March. Cats are definitely going be up on price and down on numbers. Well....A's and B cats are up. Still not much interest in low grade cats. If you have coyotes or cats, call me! I want them on my sale! Just locked down 50 more cats yesterday from Oregon and Colorado. Rusty 208-870-3217

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Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6443010
01/28/19 12:08 PM
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We (New Mexico) usually have 600 to 900 coyotes haven't heard yet how many of this years catch is coming. Trapping is always more fun when the market is competetive

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6443031
01/28/19 12:30 PM
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Anybody see any real numbers on the blackfoot sale average yet.???


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Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6444011
01/29/19 10:43 AM
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Anyone have the real results of this sale?

Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: herekittykitty] #6444274
01/29/19 02:50 PM
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Be patient! They ran out of fingers and toes counting, and volunteer tabulators are on the way.

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Re: Blackfoot sale [Re: wy.wolfer] #6444294
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Be patient! They ran out of fingers and toes counting, and volunteer tabulators are on the way.

Lol good stuff


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