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Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442206
01/27/19 04:11 PM
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I prefer and use a mix of Northern and some southern castor. I prefer Northern. Paul I believe prefers southern castor.

The old Civil War is still alive. smile

Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442215
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I do like the southern castor. It seems to work better on the southern beaver when formulated in Backbreaker. It works everywhere very well.

Our southern beavers tend to eat sweet gum a lot, which gives it a different odor than the aspen eating northern beavers. We have beavers here that came from Wisconsin, and since they've been eating sweet gum, their castor doesn't have that stinky northern castor odor - whistle.



Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442217
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I like the under ice post set using beaver pee. But I have caught any beaver on my post sets yet.:)


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Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442218
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Re: Types of castor [Re: Rat Masterson] #6442397
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Les, the reason you haven't found anything better is because you haven't used mine. The only way we are going to know is for you to send me a gallon of yours.

If you need a gallon , you're using it wrong, lol. A 4 oz bottle of mine will catch 100 beaver, some of them twice. laugh


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Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442644
01/27/19 10:34 PM
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Hey guys, wow, thanks for all the replies. I can see a certain someone's ego still is way up there grin In all seriousness I appreciate all the info. Learned a lot on this thread, like always. Well, it's been a long day. Got 20 sets out today (mix of beaver drowners and coni's, otter slide sets, coon dirt holes and DP's, mink drowners, coyote flat sets and a even found time to get my GSP out for a successful ruffed grouse hunt for the closing weekend. Came home and skinned, fleshed and boarded a couple beaver. Now it's time to get something hot to put in my belly.


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Re: Types of castor [Re: trapper les] #6442670
01/27/19 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by trapper les
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Les, the reason you haven't found anything better is because you haven't used mine. The only way we are going to know is for you to send me a gallon of yours.

If you need a gallon , you're using it wrong, lol. A 4 oz bottle of mine will catch 100 beaver, some of them twice. laugh


a 1 oz. bottle is sufficient for 200 beaver catch .

trapperles you send Me a gallon of your beaver castor ?

, then I will decide , If your beaver castor is better , give me your address for trading .

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Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442677
01/27/19 11:00 PM
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Let's get serious now. I know a fella or two that might make it by the gallon, but I aint one of them. I make a couple pints every now and then, and if I run short, I quick make some as I am skinning and dealing with the beaver I have caught.

And I have no desire to use anyone else's although, I have different samples here and there I have taken in trade. I am not in the business, but I have confidence in the product I use. And I was taught how to make it up a very long time ago.


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Re: Types of castor [Re: The Beav] #6442680
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Some may think It makes a difference but I have taken 1000s of castors out of southern beaver and caught 1000s of beaver using It. I know the Boss likes northern castor. But I'm betting most lure manufactures don't care one way or the other. Since In most cases something is added to that castor so It's not pure straight castor that Is coming out of that bottle.
I only add glycerin to my castor to make a paste. It's as close to the natural product as you can get. I scrape the castor green and there are no outer skin In those scrapings. And I never add sac oil. It works for me.

But to be fair just about any castor lure will deliver the goods. That Bob Wilsons green beaver lure was super good.


if you are adding glycerine to your beaver castor today < 2019 , it certainly is not pure natural , it's processed much differently than 30+ years ago, it is vegan, unless? is purchased .

trrapper Bob , was wise he made it green smile

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Re: Types of castor [Re: trapper les] #6442737
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Originally Posted by trapper les
Let's get serious now. I know a fella or two that might make it by the gallon, but I aint one of them. I make a couple pints every now and then, and if I run short, I quick make some as I am skinning and dealing with the beaver I have caught.

And I have no desire to use anyone else's although, I have different samples here and there I have taken in trade. I am not in the business, but I have confidence in the product I use. And I was taught how to make it up a very long time ago.


I am Serious , the glycerine I am talking about used to be manufactured in an animal bone factory Plant down from my old homestead, they made glycerine from Aged animal bones and sinew from horses, cattle, hogs , sheep , deer , mules , donkeys , etc . it sure had a nice odors emitting from it year around , it sit way back into a big 400 acre woods , with a rock gravel road winding back to it . we boys used to go window peeping back in them Good 'Ole Days .

the glycerine available today mostly is Vegan junk, some will not even mix with moonshine , that IS bad junk there .

very little of this Art. manufactured glycerine , even today will also mix with moonshine ,that is the test . smile

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Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442741
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I make about a gallon a year but only been making it for a couple of years. I am considering marketing it as it works as good as anything I have bought commercially. Caught 103 in 6 days with it and half my spots had already been trapped.

Re: Types of castor [Re: Rat Masterson] #6442744
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
I make about a gallon a year but only been making it for a couple of years. I am considering marketing it as it works as good as anything I have bought commercially. Caught 103 in 6 days with it and half my spots had already been trapped.


Hey Rat Masterson, you're doing Good . I wouldn't change anything . smile

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Re: Types of castor [Re: trapper les] #6442747
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Originally Posted by trapper les
Actually, I heard there was better lure than mine out there, but I aint seen it yet. smile laugh


Well, you know how those ice bound northern beavers are; once they get free from their winter jail in the spring, they'll come to anything.
grin



Re: Types of castor [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6442762
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by trapper les
Actually, I heard there was better lure than mine out there, but I aint seen it yet. smile laugh


Well, you know how those ice bound northern beavers are; once they get free from their winter jail in the spring, they'll come to anything.
grin


Paul you have to remember a lot of Les beaver are actually Canadian beaver that have slipped over the 49th and are looking for the wall and bump into his sets.

The problem that I had with Backbreaker is that it is miss name. The times that I have used it , well it was "boat swamper" or do you give special jars at conventions with a secret ingredient that I got.

Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442767
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Wild idaho...stay tuned:

Since I haven't chimed in yet- your understanding of all things castor is not going to be quite up to snuff.

For when I uncork my horn of homemade castor I regularly hear them moaning and growling in their dens and pretty soon the water is a moving and a swirling around and they's a slapping their tales like crazy and trying to climb in the boat. Have to beat 'em with my oar or else they get in there and bite holes upon my beaver that's already been collected for the day.

Got two or three recipes I use. One I'll throw at ya is take Minnesota's "Bread and Butter" muskrat lure and add a thimble full or two of pure beaver castor juice from a fresh caught XL beaver. If you use that and you don't catch beaver- that means there aren't no beaver there!

I got better recipes than that though too.


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Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442768
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LOL, I think you may be on to something with the looking for the wall thing.

I like the name "boat swamper". I don't have any special jars..... well except for a very few of the very old ones that dad made.



Re: Types of castor [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6442771
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by trapper les
Actually, I heard there was better lure than mine out there, but I aint seen it yet. smile laugh


Well, you know how those ice bound northern beavers are; once they get free from their winter jail in the spring, they'll come to anything.
grin

Right on, them beaver are hard up. I just make up a mound on my tail gate, drive by a swamp, hide behind a bush and nose knock them beavers as they come to the truck, lol.


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Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442773
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That's about what I figured Les - lol.



Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442777
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I've been on his line below the 49th and that's how it happens....if my memory serves me right.

I don't have that beaver problem anymore.....I have 100 Minn + ND boys driving down my creek to Lake Winnipeg to go fishing every day now and the creek freezes to the bottom

Re: Types of castor [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6442795
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I buy Castor from all over the United States and get some from Alaska. It would amaze you at the different smell that Castor has from different parts of the U.S. I like the smell of Castor from Idaho and states close to that state. Castor caught from different parts of Idaho has different smells. Castor inland smell;s different than Castor that has been caught closer to the far west side of the state. Alaska Castor smells different than Castor I have bought from any of the lower 48. Castor from the East coast, especially Castor that has been bought from the far North east Coast, smells very different than any place I have ever received Castor from. The different smells must all come from the food they eat. One other real big difference is, the fullness of the Castors.

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