Heard this morning that new MN Governor wants to legalize pot. Just got off the phone with a guy that said there is also a bill that would allow someone to only purchase one firearm per year. The catch is if you are a pot user, you wouldn't be able to purchase any firearm. Anybody else hear about this?

With the Minnesota Senate being in Republican control, it is doubtful either bill will pass. There are several bills being introduced regarding gun control, including a "red flag" law and background checks for ALL firearm transfers.

I will give former governor Dayton credit for not wanting to legalize recreational pot, just medicinal during his term. During his last term, republicans controlled the house and senate. So, any gun control bills weren't going anywhere either.

I think Dayton wason way more than Pot!!

I hope it doesn't even get a vote. The last thing we need is more people buzzed, driving etc. Further dumbing down of America IMHO. I listened to testimony on the bill on public TV yesterday. I wasn't convinced in any way it would be good for Minnesota. One of the top Mn lawmakers told me last year it will not get past him, he had talked to lawmakers in Colorado and those lawmakers told him it was a huge mistake to legalize pot in Colorado.

suppose just for residents.

Our New governor here In WI wants to do the same thing.

tryin to make up for loss of revenue on the marsh

I hope it flops Also!!!

Dead set against it.

Zero idea why it’s illegal to begin with anyway

I know quite a few that smoke weed. By n large, they are already lazy n fat.
Just what Mn needs is more of those type

Bad idea. Then they would have room in prison for pedophilels, rapists, and real criminals. Can't have that.

Smoking a fatty....and playing with a 330......Looks like the 330 club is going to have a few new members.

No nonresident dope smokers allowed !

DUDE!!! THAT was quite a rush!!!

Isnt flynfinn from there ? Maybe he is organizing a rally , havent seen him on here in awhile

There's a reason for that..........

Pa is considering this same thing.
And the gun thing is in this one to.

He just walked away for a while. He could reappear, I think, if he wanted to.


On another note, I haven't saw that the dope smokers are the most productive folks around, and legalizing it wont change that. It might swell the welfare rolls somehow.

May a 330 snap on thine testicals

I don't believe you can be addicted to marijuana. It is just an excuse and a big act to even claim that.

Yes, it makes a fella lazy, but there are worse crimes, and prisons are at 160% capacity. Or should I say State operated country clubs.

Yep... Throw the lazy potheads in prison where they get 3 hots and a cot at taxpayer expense... That'll teach 'em.

Mike

Agree.

Legalizing pot....I am against it; but really don't have a strong opinion.

Red flag gun control, is fascist enough to make Benito Mussolini smile from the grave.

Every state will soon make it legal they want that tax money then the Feds will want there share, its all about more tax.

And then there are people like bowhunter27295 that never could figure out the history lesson from Prohibition. I'm not picking a fight, either. I just think, based upon my experience, that people make better decisions on their own, than what they are offered by Big Brother.

Compared to what, alcoholics that are fat and lazy and sit in the bar every night ?

Should of never been made illegal in the first place. Alaska went legal a few years ago and guess what. No stoned people falling out of buildings or crashing into busloads of orphan's.
Nothing changed except less drug crime, and more state tax money.

The alcoholic's are still the ones crashing and killing innocent people, Beating their kids and wives, and wizzing, and puking around the downtown businesses', and passed out on the streets.

Minnesota will be just fine.

We probably wont have enough potato chips for this, might have to ramp up production.

Well they were able to ramp up the production of salted peanuts and blind robins after prohibition was retracted. So anything is possible.

It's gonna be rough but we'll get through it.

Freedom and personal choice is a terrible thing to waste on society

Also the governor has come out in favor and there was a bill introduced in the Senate although it's dead in the water, at least for this session.

Dumb down the people even more than they already are.

It recently came to my attention that two college boys could not tell the time on a non digital clock....they probably cannot read script either.

If the Gov't would get the **** out of the way, smokin weed wouldn't be an issue. But the way they are involved is turning it into the libtard nation. And I will say this, like everything else, the younger generation can't handle weed and work and being a productive member of society. They are, hey big Gov, handle everything while I stay down here in my Mama's basement type, and letting go of freedom. Stupid!

I suspect that parts of Minnesota will be governed by sharia law soon.

Keith

I voted for medical maijuana in Montana and I now regret it. 98% of the "patients" are people in their 20's. You can tell people to their face that they drink too much but you can't tell a pothead they're a pothead if it's "medicine". I want legal "medical beer" so I can legitimize my excessive beer drinking.

Its too bad the government made liars out of them so they don't get arrested for a non issue. Next will be recreational vote coming near you soon to" Legitimize" cannabis use.

Walk into a bar and get your medical beer any time you want. No skin off my butt.

X-2

Good luck with that mess.

Weed has been illegal for decades, yet any 13 yr old kid can find it if he wants it, so may as well legalize it and tax it.
BUT, meth is the same thing...anybody can get it, but it's Satan's drug. That stuff is horrible.

momma says "heroin's the devil"

Legalize it. Government's got no business telling anyone what they can or can't put in your body. That being said, my opinion of people who get stoned is rather low.

I've heard it said before that having weed available only medicinally creates a situation where the only available weed is super strong stuff, akin to hard liquor, whereas a free market creates more of a market for lower-potency stuff, akin to beer. Some people just wanna be able to smoke a joint and only get a little high, and relax Not everybody wants to take a trip to the moon from one hit off the bong. Just food for thought.

Denver mayor regrets passing the law. Why is this drug not sold in a pharmacy? Be carful the law's may change from city to city county to county.
What a cluster ( not a good word for trapperman) JMO

Will teachers be allowed to do a doobie at lunch?

smoke em if ya gottem.

Go ahead and kill your baby, but don't you dare puff a doobie!!

I use to be a die hard right wing Christian to the max. After stressing, banging my head against the wall, and seeing no change I decided to be a live and let live libertarian. I hate drugs, abortion, and welfare, but nothing is and will be done about any of those things, no Republican or Democrat has changed it. So I go along with the principle if what you do doesn't violate my rights or freedom go for it and answer to your God at a later date. The problem with all this stuff is there's too many what if's when it comes to drugs it's not like alcohol. It stays with you way much longer. To hard to accurately test and most jobs will not allow it regardless.

It wouldn't change . At least not for a very long time.

Legalize it, and tax it. Just because it's legal non users will not become pot heads.


I personally never have used or have any interest in pot. I also have never cared if people want to use it.

I'm with ya Pat, I have no time for the crap, but I don't care what anyone does in their home.

Friedman said it best and I'm paraphrasing here, prohibition benefits the government, those involved in the court systems and the cartels the most.

The war on drugs is an integral part of the welfare state.

Maurice Thompson said in his book , The Witchery of Archery , that he lit his pipe to " smoke off the effects of the coffee".

I'm not fooled , Mr. Thompson .

Lotza liberals in MN, datts for sure

Best book ever!

Are they allowed to drink alcohol at lunch? Just because the gubbiment says something is illegal doesn't mean your employer can't ban it.

I suppose if it's deemed medicinal and the individual has a prescription they could use it. Don't see how it would be any worse than the opioid painkillers that are being prescribed.

Are the pot heads really going to rise to power ? Will they be the movers and the shakers ? I doubt it. No threat there.

Even legal, they are supposed to pass pee test to get job, or keep it

Ummm ,did you happen to notice that there are now 10 legal states and 13 that decriminalized it ? in like the last 5 years. That didn't happen by itself. So yea movers and shakers. At this rate they could form a political party and do pretty good.

So when do you suppose the drunks will organize and rise up against the government ?

Never knew of anyone who called in sick because they smoked pot the night before.

What, did we finially wring all the avalible tax dollars out of the regular tabacco smokers while beating down that bad habit?

We said the same about those without common sense 25 years ago.

Because of prohibition, how many people are employed in the prison system, various law enforcement agencies, lawyers, judges, social workers, probation officers and on and on and on.

Prohibition benefits the swamp that is the government way more they, just tax you, I and everyone else to pay for it.

At least if it were legal they could tax those that make the choice to use it pay for any negative impacts it may have and let you and I keep our money.

To think that prohibition will stop them from doing it and then leaving their own home is an even bigger ignorance of reality, they are already doing it.

You are trying to legislate safety over freedom. As a non user of alcohol or any mind altering substance, I'll take freedom.

I wish politicians would work on projects that will actually produce real results for the voters other than trying to be as politically correct as they can. We have completely legalized pot here in Colorado and it didn't produce nearly the tax revenue projected, I think because it's an all cash business, and pot shop owners ,and weed bar owners decide to keep the unreported cash. It also pretty much de-motivates workers when they are stoned A LOT, and you have to watch out for the driver that's doing 25 mph in a 60 mph zone. 2nd issue, what will allowing a one gun a year quota do to reduce crime? At all? This Governor has no ability for critical thought. He's only pandering to his base.

Its pretty much already legal here. Nobody doing any time for weed here. I know a cop who legally caught a guy with 253lbs of weed. Prosecutor said " Yep good grab... but meh, it's only weed". No charges filed.

Walk around any of the big downtowns bus stops or sidewalks. The weed smell with choke you at times. Zero consequences as is. The cops have even been ordered by the Weed proponent major not to arrest the black kids selling it on the street corner. Sided with by the County attorney.

Its a liberal state run by super duper liberal cities (Minneapolis/St paul), where anything goes. Kinda like the Star Wars Cantina.

Willie Nelson and snoop dogg moving to Minnesota!

The drunks are already entrenched.

LOL, point taken.

I hope not. They might feel comfortable in the confines of a city, but not up here, 400 miles north on the Canadian border. It would be interesting to put them both in the same fishhouse for a while though, or let them just fish out in the open like when I grew up.

And you would be right according to one of his aides when Dayton was a senator. He claimed Dayton had to have his "meds" prior to making a speech. Dayton once complained, that the republicans criticized him because he took medication for depression sometimes.

I posted this to emphasize the contradictory nature of this in the elimination of your ability to purchase a gun if you are a pot user. In other words, it's OK to smoke pot, but not if you want to purchase a gun. Huh??

But, it seems to have progressed to a debate on whether it's harmful to smoke pot or has any ill effects on its usage. That wasn't my intent even though I have strong feelings on the subject. I will only say what I was once told by a person who works with people addicted to drugs: He said, "Not all pot smokers are heroin users. But, all heroin users were once pot smokers."

All you hypocrites are going to have to just suck it up and get used to it. legalization is coming whether you like it or not. Its the people that are putting up the ballet initiatives ,not the politicians.
Its not about the money. Its about returning personal freedom that should of never been taken away. In fact it should come with an apology from the government for ruining so many lives for nothing.

I am amazed that so many people on here support more government intrusion in our lives.

Oh, and I am sure all heroine addicts drank a beer too. So there's your gateway drug. lol

There will be a few more who try it. But there are so many people who are regular users now. Honestly there are more people who are addicted to legal pain killers, and the meth heads are everywhere.

There is way more issues with alcohol than pot - I can't remember the last time a pot head killed someone driving around high.

Oh, and don't forget the Birch Polypore Mushroom, now there's a gateway drug.

oooooo mushrooooooms--oh no you didn;t,next thing you'll wanna regulate my toad licking.

Nice that you think you're smarter than a professional counselor. Did you go to school for that or just learn it on your own?

3 weeks ago, I buried my daughter who was a heavy pot smoker. The tox report isn't back yet, but the forensic examiner suspects it will show she was into hard core drugs of some kind. BTW, she didn't like beer so that probably wasn't her gateway drug.

Yukon. Anyone that's worked for the govt, around politicians (20 years here) knows it's never about right or wrong or personal freedoms (even though they like to disguise such) its ALWAYS about the money. Filthy/greedy buggers just can't seem to get enough of it. The sure wouldn't push to legalize it if they were fixing to make a boatload of cash off it.

Sorry to hear that Trapper7. It makes me sick to know that politicians don't give two turds about your girl as long as they can make some quick/fat cash. But that's how they operate.

Personally I could care less if its legalized at my age. As stated previously, its about as close to legalized right now here. Effects me zero, but it sure will effect some of our young ones.

Everything comes with a cost.

Trapper7 Sorry for your loss.
I have a lifetime of witnessing alcohol and drug abuse. I know at least 20 people that died of direct alcohol abuse. I still have yet to hear of someone that died from Cannabis.
Lets not confuse cannabis, with heroin, alcohol, and other hard drugs that do kill.

I think it should be legal in the whole United States, just do like Canada did, look if you want to do it, you should be able to, if you dont want to do it, then dont.

I don't drink the hardstuff so it would effect me if it were illegal.
I rarely drink wine so they could pass a law agiast drinking/making it-wouldn't effect me.
I like to have a beer now and then-I want to keep drinking it when I want.
Don't smoke weed so it doesn't matter to me if it's outlawed.
I like cigars-I don't like all they anti tobacco talk.

But that's just me. I don't think pot is much worse than any of the other stuff, So who am I to tell folks what they should be allowed to do?
Let me to my vices and conduct yourself as you want.

I know some weed heads that seem to be wasting their lives, but I know more drunkards who do the same with their's.
Pot is here to stay. Let's let it be and collect the taxes from the users. Treat it just like alcohol.

Nothing good has come of many things listed here. Nothing good will come of this either.

Osky

I agree that none of it good for us, but so are high fat diets, too much red meat. sugar, salt..........everything in moderation. It's up to adults to choose and suffer the consequences for overdoing things. My parents taught me how I should live. It's up to me to take care of my self now-I don't need big brother.

People are stupid enough as it is,no need to encourage stupidity by legalizing marijuana.
Just look at our pot puffing mr dressup prime minister if you want to see what pot does to people.

No maybe you don’t. I have never heard of teens goading each other to try too much fat or salt, or that being a hazard to anyone but the individual. You or anyone else driving along with a big sweet candy bar or having just eaten too much steak aren’t a threat to anyone but yourself.
So be it. Nothing good. All about freedom handing liquor to Indians, they free to make a choice as well. It sure has worked out well for them.

Osky

I live in a place where the local people voted alcohol illegal, and cannabis legal. No meth or heroin here. The only drug deaths are from alcohol.

That's an interesting example Yukonjeff.
As for the point about teens, doesn't this happen everyday with alcohol? We can't be protected from everything. When it's abused, burn the abuser.

The sky is falling ! The sky is falling!

Because of , uh, a plant .

Gimme a break .

Why would teens need to goad each other into doing something the government already does for them ? Ever seen a school lunch lately ? Pure junk .

FYI, lots of cases of car wrecks due to strokes and heart attacks . Several due to diabetes , as well. They even appear drunk and have an odor similar to that as if they’d been drinking.

The Spaniards and Indians Puffed on it Centurys ago.. Its a Free country why not Tax it. Our country's broke enough trying to Fight a war that lost.
To give people a Stigma for smoking Marijuana is funny. Its not much Different from Alcohol. There are Lazy and uneducated drunks , just like lazy uneducated pot heads,no difference in my opinion.
Its not a gate way drug. Thats the Individuals choice of self destruction , dont blame Marijuana

I'm not sure about that....I spent a long week out and when I hit pavement the first place I stopped at was all you can eat steak buffet. I sat down, had a glass of water and ate enough steak that I thought I was going to pass out. I left but pulled over at the next establishment and took a nap. I was steak drunk and it was glorious.

Only thing I’d take exception to is it’s “ not much different from alcohol “.

Alcohol is waaaay different. It’s like weed’s PO’ed ,trailer trash ,distant cousin that everyone hopes won’t make it to the Fourth of July bash cause he always acts like an ***hole .

The genie is out of the bottle. It's only a matter of time...

As opposed tooooo....? A pointless national policy ? Show me the accomplishments this many years later .

They tried alcohol prohibition and it failed, because people wanted it and were going to have it.
Weed is no different. It's prohibited, yet anybody can get it. Why waste the money fighting it? The war is lost.

Lord...OK

Lots of bong water drownings and people choking on their Yoohoo's and nachos. It's epidemic.

However, Prohibition failed to curtail a drug that kills everyday. In fact !!...one of the few where withdrawal can be fatal.

People have strived to alter consciousness since time begin. Heck, it was one of the first little tricks you did as a kid .

Only once it's legal eh?

Mike

"All the world will be potheads once it's legalized" is the EXACT same argument as " if we allow Constitutional Carry it'll be like the Wild West". Zero difference.

When I was in college, a long time ago, we smoked alot of illegal pot at college parties. Nothing new under the sun.

I'm glad you survived, sir

Thats very kind of you. I could have died you know.



And the funny thing, we all graduated, except that one girl who just drank vodka.

When I was young I know I smoked so much weed
The zigzag man got my tattoo on his shoulder lol
And I turned out fine. In fact I think I'm better from that experience
I did not turn to alcohol until I got in the Marines.

I see a lot of you folks pointing and braying about gateway drugs , well I've got a huge news flash for You - the gateway drug is - SUGAR - think about it !

Hard to admit it isn't it !

The tax money that is realized will pay for the pot agency's building and employees so the revenue will not help. Course they'll have to set aside millions to help the legal drug abusers.

it's your story,you can tell it any way you want.need to start with "once upon a time" though.

Maybe this has been mentioned in the 6 pages ,But..
my thoughts are this> Smoke it you want, I tried it when i was in school. no big thing and dosent interest me one bit really since then.

My concern is this and at least in Ohio since we now have it is the following> you get the card you loose your weapons and anyone else in the dwelling you reside it. you are told this when you get the card.The federal government still considers it a felony and illegal.
Now i I ever heard of a gun grab and the sheepeople just grazing towards socialism is mid blowing.
Just for a stupid high willing to forgo your second amendment right is Crazy.
Not Me .not now or not ever!
correct me if i"m wrong.

Smoke em if ya got em !

Legalize drugs!

Full term abortion!

Open borders!

Free college!

Free health insurance!

What could possibly go wrong???

I'm on the wake n bake program program right now

You evil wake and bake people are ruining this country!!
The eary morning Bloody Mary drinkers will fix it!!

If they make mj legal and you no longer need a card can you
Then go out and buy those scary black 30 magazine clip guns all you want?

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Legalize the dang stuff already.

Stop into most redneck bars and you will see that many of the patrons only need a little alcohol to turn into a--holes.
A couple friends who are state cops tell me they'd much rather deal with a stoner than a drunk.

After living in the legalize mary Jane experiment in Canada now for a while, I can tell you that the fact it is legal now has been totally inconsequential.

The town I live in has always been huge for pot smoking. It still is. I still don't, and people who don't want to smoke it still don't smoke it either. The law mattered little here. It has free up the courts and police from busting those dangerous pot smokers!!

Pot affects the brain in far different ways than alcohol. The fact that alcohol is legal and pot wasn't always killed me. I have worked on crews where guys have smoked on breaks, and walked elevated beams, worked in rafters, and used all manner of power equipment with zero issues. Those same people would never drink on the job because they would lose life or limb really fast. Plus no one ever gets high on pot and beats up their wife, crashes a car, or passes out and dies choking on their own vomit...no, that's all thanks to alcohol...legal alcohol.

Long term use (like twenty years) has a habit of making people very moody and cranky at times. It also isn't particularly motivating. Tough to tell though if pot makes people lazy, or if lazy people do pot. I defy anyone to tell me they know for a fact it is cause and effect

I don't smoke, and never will, and like has been said I don't hold people who smoke a lot it particularly high regard. I don't drink either, and never will despite it being legal. Who cares. You don't like pot? Don't smoke it. You don't like guns? Don't buy one...same theory. The last thing I want is my government using my tax dollars to prosecute people for something so unimportant when there are important issues going by the wayside.

I would also think that in a country where fetal humans are being slaughtered among other issues, legal marijuana wouldn't even be on anyone's radar.

I've found over the years that the people who argue the most against pot, have the least experience with it, so i don't bother.

It's like argueing trapping with someone who never saw a trap.

you mean dem tings wit da big tooths.

Yep