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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448598
02/02/19 08:19 AM
02/02/19 08:19 AM
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I've always had good luck contacting Andy through his business email.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: pcr2] #6448603
02/02/19 08:32 AM
02/02/19 08:32 AM
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Have done some business with him in the past and was satisfied. I spoke up in his defense.
I was contacted by a person that I have a lot of respect for and he told me his story. The guy that contacted me got screwed big time for a lot of money.
I was saddened and I felt bad that I had unknowingly stood up for that type of behavior.
I was dead wrong. Sorry I ever said a thing.

This kind of thing happens more than a lot know. A while back I was contacted by another friend on here that had been swindled. He had trusted a big name lure maker. Met him at a convention with about 3 five gallon pails of glands. (May have only been two pails but I do not remember.) The big name did not have enough money or check book with him or some other excuse and my friend trusted him. He never got paid, even after several contacts.

There are men I know that I would hand my wallet to and trust them with it. But, there are very few of them.
There men that I know that I would trust my life with, and this group is mighty small. But there are a handful.
It is pretty bad when a trapper - another and takes advantage of trust. It is unfortunate that we have arrived at a place that it seems you have to be very careful who you trust. Very unfortunate.

Johnny Thorpe told me an interesting story when I spent time with him. Back in the fur boom he spent a lot of money for a large lot of fox urine from a well known dealer that has the reputation of being a bit difficult. The urine never came and the money was gone.
About a year later Johnny got a letter from the guy that explained the extremely difficult times he had gone through with a divorce that affected every aspect of his life. His old lady had spent a lot of money coming in. This guy apologize and said he felt bad about the situation.
Also the letter contained a check for the funds Thorpe had sent. Johnny said he had a lot of respect for the guy from then on out.
I share this little story in hopes some others might get the idea about being stand up and doing the right thing.

Sorry to those that have been taken advantage of.
Mac




Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448636
02/02/19 09:10 AM
02/02/19 09:10 AM
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I have no clue what is going on with Andy or why. Never met him, but came to have a lot of respect for him through this site. Purchased from him, and encouraged others to do so, because of the trappers on this site. I trusted those around me, to help guide me in the right direction, meaning those on this site, since a LOT of my trapping education has come from here. This site has been an excellent source of information and has helped thousands make contact with each other. Andy has had a huge following, and a lot of that following comes as a result of what has been said on this site. Many of the orders placed with him come through this site. This site has been used to reach out and help Andy when he needed it during his time of crisis. If there is any appropriate place to air a grievance, to seek resolution, to clear the air, it's right HERE in my opinion. To benefit from this site, and all the men and women who make this site, then bow out, and have his friends defend him and attempt to shame anyone who only seek answers they've been unable to get on their own, it's SHAMEFUL! Especially since it's coming from many of the same trappers that have encouraged others to order from Andy. So what if he's trapping, so what. He's having a negative effect on many lives in this trapping community. That is unacceptable, unless maybe, he's your friend.


I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money!
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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448665
02/02/19 09:49 AM
02/02/19 09:49 AM
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How long has he really been around? Where did he come up with this lure business. Did he buy someone out?

Who Is this John that someone said Is his partner? If he has this so called partner why hasn't he come forward?

I don't remember about his medical crises, was It real? Did any of you sit at his bed side during this crises?

Is this some type kind of a con job? lots of con jobs are set up In just this fashion.
Something Is rotten In Demark.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448689
02/02/19 10:34 AM
02/02/19 10:34 AM
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Thanks for all the replies and comments. For those that commented about getting money back from Pay Pal, I have filed a claim but they can take up to a couple months to get anything done. I am waiting on that right now.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: The Beav] #6448692
02/02/19 10:39 AM
02/02/19 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
How long has he really been around? Where did he come up with this lure business. Did he buy someone out?

Who Is this John that someone said Is his partner? If he has this so called partner why hasn't he come forward?

I don't remember about his medical crises, was It real? Did any of you sit at his bed side during this crises?

Is this some type kind of a con job? lots of con jobs are set up In just this fashion.
Something Is rotten In Demark.


Andy's been around a long time. I met him at a trapping convention about 15 years ago in Miles City, MT. He had a booth and was just a small time lure business guy back them. His business just really started to boom once he got on social media and started to go to trapping conventions in the past 3 - 4 years. I'm not sure what's happened and it's too bad things have come to this.

I don't believe John is his partner. John Wilson makes the Montana trapping bags but customizes a bag for Andy to sell under the Weiser name. So they have business relations but not partnered up to my understanding.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: The Beav] #6448695
02/02/19 10:43 AM
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Andy is a great man. Not sure what is going on. I visited him in the hospital when he had his heart attack. Just my two cents worth.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448699
02/02/19 10:51 AM
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I buy/order a fair amount of trapping gear and lure, but have never bought any of his goods. I highlighted some of his lure in my wish list over at MTP for next seasons use.

Just typing his name in my browser brought up quite a few distributors of his products. I wonder how long this can go on before those distributors decide they don't want to be associated with this brand. It's a small world. Don't press the self-destruct button.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: The Beav] #6448707
02/02/19 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
How long has he really been around? Where did he come up with this lure business. Did he buy someone out?

Who Is this John that someone said Is his partner? If he has this so called partner why hasn't he come forward?

I don't remember about his medical crises, was It real? Did any of you sit at his bed side during this crises?

Is this some type kind of a con job? lots of con jobs are set up In just this fashion.
Something Is rotten In Demark.

I understand the situation here a little clearer now than I did earlier, but unless you have more information than what you have presented here or what others have presented here, speculating that he is intentionally pulling a con with his lure business might be going a bit far IMHO. If you have information that directly points to that I understand your warning. Remember why Paul locked the first thread; the horse is dead.

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: trapper les] #6448718
02/02/19 11:13 AM
02/02/19 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by trapper les
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300 dollars worth of lure. I haven't spent $300 on lure in my lifetime. Must be good stuff.

That's a lot of lure.


only 48oz or so.


Who is John Galt?
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448722
02/02/19 11:15 AM
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Thatís still a lot. Enough for how many sets? Maybe including some bait?

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448730
02/02/19 11:28 AM
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I never trust anybody that's too friendly.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448735
02/02/19 11:37 AM
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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448739
02/02/19 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobo Rojo
Thanks for all the replies and comments. For those that commented about getting money back from Pay Pal, I have filed a claim but they can take up to a couple months to get anything done. I am waiting on that right now.


That's a good start.I doubt if it will take that long but that money will be frozen and can't be accessed by the seller.Maybe it will be easier to get your stuff to you quickly than take that hit.Good luck with it.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448745
02/02/19 11:47 AM
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Yep..When I purchase I look at at the reviews..this one has quite a few 1 star ratings


I can catch them here...I can catch them ANYWHERE
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448750
02/02/19 11:52 AM
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I sure hope Andy makes right on all his dealings. frown

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448773
02/02/19 12:14 PM
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I got hit also, but he did eventually send our order. He never did call me back but he did text me to say he was skinning coyotes. I ended up using FNT until our order came in.

I hope he can get himself back up on his feet. I would probably not believe most complaints, if we didn't get blown off ourselves.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448784
02/02/19 12:33 PM
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If you like his products but are wary about getting burnt, order from a distributor who carries his line. In most cases the pricing is the same as buying direct.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448785
02/02/19 12:38 PM
02/02/19 12:38 PM
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Why are we ordering stuff from guys that are busy trapping in the middle of the season?

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Bigbrownie] #6448786
02/02/19 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
If you like his products but are wary about getting burnt, order from a distributor who carries his line. In most cases the pricing is the same as buying direct.


Exactly what we did. Maybe that is the route Andy will go. I only used him directly because I thought he would get a tiny fraction more proffit.

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