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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457775
02/11/19 09:46 AM
02/11/19 09:46 AM
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What percentage of his business do you suppose TM folks comprise? With so many other places to spend my trapping money, I can't see risking my money with someone like this.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: yotetrapper30] #6457776
02/11/19 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by PAskinner
Looks like the last post from Andy on Facebook is January 19.


Naw, he posted on Feb 7th

Ok? I'm not seeing it. Lots of posts by others on his feed.


Right now Im having amnesia and dj vu at the same time. I think Ive forgotten this before.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: PAskinner] #6457784
02/11/19 09:52 AM
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He responded to one of those posts on the 7th.


Eh...wot?
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457785
02/11/19 09:54 AM
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Kinda puts a taint on the whole internet buddies thing aye?

Surely a couple can roll over there and help?

Internet friends or real friends? Trust?

I hope he's ok and the folks that got the theft by deception come out ok.





Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lugnut] #6457788
02/11/19 09:58 AM
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He also made this post on the 7th:

Andy Weiser
February 7 at 9:19 AM

They say when the going gets tuff the tuff get going. I say the older i get the less i like this kind of cold. Coyotes are moving. Came back home for more cloths. Lol. first 6 snares had 4 good coyotes. Should be a good days run.

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Eh...wot?
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457931
02/11/19 11:39 AM
02/11/19 11:39 AM
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Boy I am glad I lost my faith in humanity many years ago. Sad that such a close knit community can have someone like this take advantage and not care one single bit about those affected. No excuse to do this to other people! I sure hope nobody else gives him their money.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457947
02/11/19 11:56 AM
02/11/19 11:56 AM
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That's the post I was referring to, Lugnut.

I believe several people visited Andy at the hospital after his heart attack.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457966
02/11/19 12:16 PM
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Weird. I can't see that post at all, Lugnut. It's not important, I just couldn't figure why people were saying he was posting every day.


Right now Im having amnesia and dj vu at the same time. I think Ive forgotten this before.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: PAskinner] #6457979
02/11/19 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Weird. I can't see that post at all, Lugnut. It's not important, I just couldn't figure why people were saying he was posting every day.


His setting are set to only share things with his friends, so if you're not friends with Andy, you'd not be able to see it.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: yotetrapper30] #6457983
02/11/19 12:34 PM
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Yeah, if your not friends on FB, you'd only see his profile picture updates.


Eh...wot?
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6458014
02/11/19 01:16 PM
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Well thought for awhile he might be taking a dirt nap not sure what to think now. I do remember a certain trap manufacture business he also made lure and instructional videos and books going on the lamb in the early 80s. left me and a lot of other folks hanging, sad because he made one heck of a trap still using them today but never got my last order and it was in the $100s of dollars. rumor had it he went bankrupt and fled to MT.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #6458029
02/11/19 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Personally, If a well known lure maker ripped me off...I would find him at a convention, and settle up there.


Yeah that Paul Dobbins would get an ear full from me !!! I'd mop the floor with him for sure... whistle whistle grin:

BUT, I have never had to do that because he always ships the Backbreaker and bait solution out promptly. Man that Backbreaker is good stuff too!


Originally Posted By: Hupurest
She should stay home and do more cooking like Babe Winkelmans wife did, and let her husband have some peace and quiet.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6458046
02/11/19 01:55 PM
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I emailed Andy about getting some of his coyote urine and he never replied to me. I have purchased lots of bait, lure and urine from him over the years but if he can't reply I am done placing orders with him. He seemed like a stand up guy. He must know about this post or a friend of his and he should have responded to this by now. It looks like his business is done.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: greggsinthehouse] #6458063
02/11/19 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by greggsinthehouse
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Personally, If a well known lure maker ripped me off...I would find him at a convention, and settle up there.


Yeah that Paul Dobbins would get an ear full from me !!! I'd mop the floor with him for sure... whistle whistle grin:

BUT, I have never had to do that because he always ships the Backbreaker and bait solution out promptly. Man that Backbreaker is good stuff too!

I don't know, if it ever came to that Paul is a pretty good size fellow.... Eat your wheaties, and Prayers sent, Lol.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6458087
02/11/19 03:04 PM
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Pauls leg is bigger than me and i aint no runt.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Jtrapper] #6458088
02/11/19 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
I'm as shocked as anyone else, REALLY SHOCKED!

Always had great dealings with him in the past so understand the many supporter's he has, he does sell great products.

But he's not sick, isn't in the hospital, etc, etc. He's been posting on facebook daily while all of this was going on.

No doubt many have reached out to him on there as well to find out what's going on, I'm sure he's well aware of post on
here and still crickets! I can't defend that. Just sad to watch yet ANOTHER top SCAM ARTIST go this route, whether he
makes things right or not the damage is now done to his reputation.


Those of us who've trapped several years and dealt with people in the trapping industry have seen it happen too many times. I don't feel bad for anyone who scams other people, especially trappers. I'm also one who generally donates to trappers who fall on hard times, house fires, health issues, etc. Glad to say I've always been a wiser (Weiser) skeptic and skipped out on donating to his "heart attack" fund or buying any of his products. Hopefully the folks who are still defending this piece of work will realize they're peeing straight into the north wind.

Last edited by dublelung; 02/11/19 03:41 PM.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6458129
02/11/19 04:12 PM
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Haven't and won't read whole thread. So I appolagize if this has already been covered here somewhere?

1st. I've ordered from him with no issues.
2nd. Crap happens from time to time. Even to the best of us! So I'm not sure if there is a reason he needs to be defended. I only say this because it seems your title is putting those down who would defend him?
3rd. You should be able to recoup money through PayPal!

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6458132
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PayPal will also lock any future payments to him if there is any repeat occurrence that might indicate fraud or habitual wrong doing.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6458159
02/11/19 04:50 PM
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you should read the whole thing,may learn a lesson--i did.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6458200
02/11/19 05:41 PM
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i started collecting some urine this year while holding coyotes. very small time . . . but, butchering red meat to feed coyotes, keeping pens clean, and collecting and straining urine is straight work even on a small scale. so if he is collecting urine on large scale all as part of a front to scam people, he could make a lot of money putting that energy elsewhere. hate to hear stories like this, for all parties involved. it's a lose lose . . . well lose lose for Andy and the people who were ordering from him. could be a push for someone who had 8-10 gallons of winter collected urine from meat fed coyotes looking to peddle some here or there grin


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