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The Weiser defenders #6448151
02/01/19 09:14 PM
02/01/19 09:14 PM
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Gillette, WY
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Lobo Rojo Offline OP
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I see that the last Weiser lure thread got locked. I can't quite figure that one, since there were several people that had not received orders from him. I would hope this would be a great place to bring this to light so that other members don't get duped out of money and time. I was wanting some more input from all the guys that were on here defending him. I'm now up to a month waiting on a lure order. I paid for it with pay-pal, so the money was good. $300 worth. I thought I'd give it another week or so, which I have, and I'm still out my $300 and no lure. So I'm looking for suggestions from all you Andy lovers. He won't answer my phone calls. He won't answer texts or messenger. He won't reply to comments on his daily Facebook posts. So what do you suggest now? I have received several messages from various places saying I'm not the first or only one to have these problems so I'm open to suggestions.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448154
02/01/19 09:18 PM
02/01/19 09:18 PM
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Delmarva
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I sure hope you can get your money back, or hopefully your order. I think you at least provided a public service, by letting people who aren’t blindly loyal have some insight on a supplier about their lack of customer service and poor communication. It will help when others decide where to spend their money.

I think in the locked thread, someone said they let Andy know people where “running him down” or something like that. Maybe they can contact him again and get you your order or a refund.


New York Trappers- Please consider becoming a hunter/trapper education instructor.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9189.html

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448163
02/01/19 09:24 PM
02/01/19 09:24 PM
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Wow, that don't sound like Andy. I know he has had some health issues in the past, I hope he is ok. Sorry OP, for your predicament. Have you considered that he may not be well? Anybody out there that may know and can help the OP out?


Disclaimer: I am currently drunk, yet still confident that this makes sense.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448184
02/01/19 09:48 PM
02/01/19 09:48 PM
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Nebraska
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I've always had great dealings with Andy. It seems odd reading all these negative posts

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448194
02/01/19 09:56 PM
02/01/19 09:56 PM
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Customer service goes a long way in todays world....this reassures me that I make the right decision every time I place an order with the few trapping suppliers I deal with....no contact after a month is unacceptable...sorry to hear about this and and maybe he is to busy but a simple message to acknowledge or letter in the mail would be better then nothing..

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448203
02/01/19 10:01 PM
02/01/19 10:01 PM
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Posts: 12,252
Goldsboro, North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Lobo Rojo
I see that the last Weiser lure thread got locked. I can't quite figure that one, since there were several people that had not received orders from him..


I locked it because the horse was dead, everyone knew it, and it was still getting kicked.



Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448206
02/01/19 10:03 PM
02/01/19 10:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,408
Montana
Taximan Offline
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Originally Posted by Lobo Rojo
I see that the last Weiser lure thread got locked. I can't quite figure that one, since there were several people that had not received orders from him. I would hope this would be a great place to bring this to light so that other members don't get duped out of money and time. I was wanting some more input from all the guys that were on here defending him. I'm now up to a month waiting on a lure order. I paid for it with pay-pal, so the money was good. $300 worth. I thought I'd give it another week or so, which I have, and I'm still out my $300 and no lure. So I'm looking for suggestions from all you Andy lovers. He won't answer my phone calls. He won't answer texts or messenger. He won't reply to comments on his daily Facebook posts. So what do you suggest now? I have received several messages from various places saying I'm not the first or only one to have these problems so I'm open to suggestions.

Why don't you file a claim with Pay Pal and get your money back?

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Taximan] #6448216
02/01/19 10:12 PM
02/01/19 10:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,299
Southeast Ohio
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Originally Posted by Lobo Rojo
I'd be thrilled just to get my money back



Originally Posted by Taximan
Why don't you file a claim with Pay Pal and get your money back?



I wondered that same thing.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: amspoker] #6448218
02/01/19 10:14 PM
02/01/19 10:14 PM
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Delmarva
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Originally Posted by amspoker
Originally Posted by Lobo Rojo
I'd be thrilled just to get my money back



Originally Posted by Taximan
Why don't you file a claim with Pay Pal and get your money back?



I wondered that same thing.


Great idea!


New York Trappers- Please consider becoming a hunter/trapper education instructor.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9189.html

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Taximan] #6448226
02/01/19 10:17 PM
02/01/19 10:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 379
MN, USA
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Originally Posted by Taximan
Originally Posted by Lobo Rojo
I see that the last Weiser lure thread got locked. I can't quite figure that one, since there were several people that had not received orders from him. I would hope this would be a great place to bring this to light so that other members don't get duped out of money and time. I was wanting some more input from all the guys that were on here defending him. I'm now up to a month waiting on a lure order. I paid for it with pay-pal, so the money was good. $300 worth. I thought I'd give it another week or so, which I have, and I'm still out my $300 and no lure. So I'm looking for suggestions from all you Andy lovers. He won't answer my phone calls. He won't answer texts or messenger. He won't reply to comments on his daily Facebook posts. So what do you suggest now? I have received several messages from various places saying I'm not the first or only one to have these problems so I'm open to suggestions.

Why don't you file a claim with Pay Pal and get your money back?



You did not say what type of Paypal payment you used. You should be aware that if you used a credit card, you can indeed contact your credit card company and they will reverse the transaction which will charge the person on Paypal a 35 dollar fee. If you utilized your bank, your bank will reverse the transaction and restore the funds. For Paypal funds, you can file a claim or phone them up and see what they say is covered.

I feel for you as all of us have gone through this stuff. From this point on, make sure you have transactions covered by financial institutions which will handle things for you. For Christmas I ordered some things out of China on Ebay. Big mistake as this is the second time a fraud manifested out of China. Ebay though restored the money.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448227
02/01/19 10:17 PM
02/01/19 10:17 PM
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Andy always treated me good.


jarentz
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Trappercass] #6448234
02/01/19 10:21 PM
02/01/19 10:21 PM
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Posts: 494
kentucky,usa
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Originally Posted by Trappercass
I've always had great dealings with Andy. It seems odd reading all these negative posts

same here . I think he has top notch service. something is wrong , im sure he will correct it


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448253
02/01/19 10:35 PM
02/01/19 10:35 PM
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I guess I am just another Andy defender...I can't imagine he would stick anyone..has to be something else going on..

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448262
02/01/19 10:41 PM
02/01/19 10:41 PM
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Minnesota, USA
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Just file a claim to get your funds back and get your lure elsewhere. Good guy or not, it's just bad business. Hopefully the guy is healthy and just swamped.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448277
02/01/19 10:47 PM
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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448309
02/01/19 11:04 PM
02/01/19 11:04 PM
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IMO one of the very valuable aspects of this website is that it helps trappers know who they can buy from with confidence. There have been several venders over the years...from fur buyers, to board makers, to whatever, who were well known as "great guys" but yet were flat out cheating some/many of their customers. They got vetted here, over the whimpers of outraged buddies, and now everybody knows and can deal with those vender, or not, accordingly.

Likewise, other venders have shown from how they deal with complaints on here that they can absolutely be trusted, and would go to great personal inconvenience to make sure their customers are treated right, everytime. Thankfully, that list is much much much longer, and everybody is well served by this information.

Whether the OP can get a refund from paypay is NOT the point. He shouldn't have to!!! He shouldn't have $300 hanging out there for a month without the decency of a response. And he's clearly not the only one. I bet those of you complaining about him coming to this forum for a resolution wouldn't just roll over if you were the one wronged. Having exhausted other forms of communication and being ignored, this deserves to be posted and it deserves a response, and the fact that there is none is something fair for all to know..."great guy" or not.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: pass-thru] #6448317
02/01/19 11:09 PM
02/01/19 11:09 PM
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Dunn County, Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
Whether the OP can get a refund from paypay is NOT the point. He shouldn't have to!!! He shouldn't have $300 hanging out there for a month without the decency of a response. And he's clearly not the only one. I bet those of you complaining about him coming to this forum for a resolution wouldn't just roll over if you were the one wronged. Having exhausted other forms of communication and being ignored, this deserves to be posted and it deserves a response, and the fact that there is none is something fair for all to know..."great guy" or not.


X2

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: pass-thru] #6448333
02/01/19 11:21 PM
02/01/19 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
IMO one of the very valuable aspects of this website is that it helps trappers know who they can buy from with confidence. There have been several venders over the years...from fur buyers, to board makers, to whatever, who were well known as "great guys" but yet were flat out cheating some/many of their customers. They got vetted here, over the whimpers of outraged buddies, and now everybody knows and can deal with those vender, or not, accordingly.

Likewise, other venders have shown from how they deal with complaints on here that they can absolutely be trusted, and would go to great personal inconvenience to make sure their customers are treated right, everytime. Thankfully, that list is much much much longer, and everybody is well served by this information.

Whether the OP can get a refund from paypay is NOT the point. He shouldn't have to!!! He shouldn't have $300 hanging out there for a month without the decency of a response. And he's clearly not the only one. I bet those of you complaining about him coming to this forum for a resolution wouldn't just roll over if you were the one wronged. Having exhausted other forms of communication and being ignored, this deserves to be posted and it deserves a response, and the fact that there is none is something fair for all to know..."great guy" or not.

Innocence until proven guilty should be paramount on your mind. As I respect the OP's dilemma, I cannot condemn someone, especially with great reputation, who may have fallen ill. Keep the tar boiling, but have the decency to wait until the verdict is in.


Disclaimer: I am currently drunk, yet still confident that this makes sense.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448342
02/01/19 11:26 PM
02/01/19 11:26 PM
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This whole thing kinda saddens me but..
I've followed Andy's post for years and have always seen him as a stand up guy.
I WILl give him the benefit of the dought for now just hoping he's ok but if it shows he's been posting on other sites or Facebook during this past few weeks, I will loose all respect.
And I would do the same to my best friend!


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448348
02/01/19 11:30 PM
02/01/19 11:30 PM
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Armpit, ak
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300 dollars worth of lure. I haven't spent $300 on lure in my lifetime. Must be good stuff.


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