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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Catch22] #6448365
02/01/19 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Innocence until proven guilty should be paramount on your mind. As I respect the OP's dilemma, I cannot condemn someone, especially with great reputation, who may have fallen ill. Keep the tar boiling, but have the decency to wait until the verdict is in.


I'm not calling for anybody to bash or convict the vendor in question. I'm just saying leave those asking for a response alone and let the facts play out.....

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448370
02/01/19 11:42 PM
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I messaged his partner a week ago and she said he was “out of bags” and that several are waiting. He knows darn well what’s going on. The only fools in this are those that keep sticking up for him.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: BigSky] #6448373
02/01/19 11:46 PM
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Why don’t you just go straight to the source if bags are what you want? I’m sure John will be more than happy to take care of you.

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Dirt] #6448377
02/01/19 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
300 dollars worth of lure. I haven't spent $300 on lure in my lifetime. Must be good stuff.

That's a lot of lure.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Dfabs] #6448378
02/01/19 11:48 PM
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Because he has $50 worth of castor that I sent him plus a check (the whole story is in the original post)
https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6401673/weiser-western-lure#Post6401673

Last edited by BigSky; 02/02/19 10:04 AM.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Catch22] #6448392
02/02/19 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
great reputation


That is being severely tarnished at this point. It's a lot harder to build a good reputation than it is to destroy one.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448398
02/02/19 12:12 AM
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There are three sides to every story.


Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448412
02/02/19 12:25 AM
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2 dealers have called me I don't know why they called me but both have been taken by Andy. And It's not just a few bucks It's In the 1000s.
I don't know if these issues have been resolved or not.
Andy knows what's going on and since he hasn't come on this site and explained this issue I'd be very carefull In dealing with him.

I met Andy once and made a barter deal with him. He seemed like a straight shooter to me but It looks like I was wrong.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: The Beav] #6448427
02/02/19 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
2 dealers have called me I don't know why they called me but both have been taken by Andy. And It's not just a few bucks It's In the 1000s.
I don't know if these issues have been resolved or not.
Andy knows what's going on and since he hasn't come on this site and explained this issue I'd be very carefull In dealing with him.

I met Andy once and made a barter deal with him. He seemed like a straight shooter to me but It looks like I was wrong.



Seen it first hand at a convention, wondered when it would happen again.


"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
-- Thomas Jefferson




Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Dirt] #6448456
02/02/19 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
300 dollars worth of lure. I haven't spent $300 on lure in my lifetime. Must be good stuff.


Are you trapping many coyotes? I'm like you, spend very little on lure, but if I was a dirt trapper the lure bill would go up.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448464
02/02/19 01:56 AM
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Iv bought from him, good dealings.. somethings not right... more to the story?


No matter how much money you make, always eat good🐠
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Steven 49er] #6448466
02/02/19 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by Dirt
300 dollars worth of lure. I haven't spent $300 on lure in my lifetime. Must be good stuff.


Are you trapping many coyotes? I'm like you, spend very little on lure, but if I was a dirt trapper the lure bill would go up.

It don’t take much lure when all you use is a moose hide scrap for bait


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448478
02/02/19 02:46 AM
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I purchased Andy’s coyote dvd a while back and received it in a timely manner. Planning on purchasing his coyote bag since some have rated it as the best out there. However, will hold off for now to see what is going on. Hope all is okay with him.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448481
02/02/19 02:51 AM
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Whats wrong with giving every potential customer a heads up that they might get taken?300 bucks is not a small amount of money to try to recover.

This thread should stay up until there is a resolution.Like said,maybe there is an explanation?

Last edited by Boco; 02/02/19 02:51 AM.

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448485
02/02/19 03:09 AM
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I guess your right Boco, but I think there is a better place to resolve this.. just my thoughts.....


Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes......
Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Cattrax] #6448486
02/02/19 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Cattrax
Originally Posted by The Beav
2 dealers have called me I don't know why they called me but both have been taken by Andy. And It's not just a few bucks It's In the 1000s.
I don't know if these issues have been resolved or not.
Andy knows what's going on and since he hasn't come on this site and explained this issue I'd be very carefull In dealing with him.

I met Andy once and made a barter deal with him. He seemed like a straight shooter to me but It looks like I was wrong.



Seen it first hand at a convention, wondered when it would happen again.

When this man repleys, pay attention. I hope Andy mans up and makes thing right.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448494
02/02/19 06:04 AM
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i think you are right but going about it the wrong way here.









Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448517
02/02/19 07:29 AM
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All I’ve known of Andy has been good

That being said, it looks like multiple people have not received what they paid for. These people have called, messaged and etc without a reply. So I’m not sure why people would be mad that the people who have not received their goods would post on here? They tried dealing with him personally but apparently are not getting any reply back. Why are the people who have not receivedgoods they paid for suddenly the bad guy?
I surely hope it is all some sort of mistake. Or that Andy makes things right. But can’t blame someone for trying to get back what is owed. Assuming all that is said is true


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6448588
02/02/19 09:09 AM
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I'm as shocked as anyone else, REALLY SHOCKED!

Always had great dealings with him in the past so understand the many supporter's he has, he does sell great products.

But he's not sick, isn't in the hospital, etc, etc. He's been posting on facebook daily while all of this was going on.

No doubt many have reached out to him on there as well to find out what's going on, I'm sure he's well aware of post on
here and still crickets! I can't defend that. Just sad to watch yet ANOTHER top notch trapper go this route, whether he
makes things right or not the damage is now done to his reputation.


Not my circus, not my clowns.
Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Jtrapper] #6448590
02/02/19 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
I'm as shocked as anyone else, REALLY SHOCKED!

Always had great dealings with him in the past so understand the many supporter's he has, he does sell great products.

But he's not sick, isn't in the hospital, etc, etc. He's been posting on facebook daily while all of this was going on.

No doubt many have reached out to him on there as well to find out what's going on, I'm sure he's well aware of post on
here and still crickets! I can't defend that. Just sad to watch yet ANOTHER top notch trapper go this route, whether he
makes things right or not the damage is now done to his reputation.

agree unfortunately









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