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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456709
02/10/19 09:37 AM
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PCR2 I have some traps for sale. Send me your money but I'm not going to send your traps..Think you would have a different view if it happened to you.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456717
02/10/19 09:43 AM
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I know guys on here that have been taken for more $ than what we are talking about on here and handled it with more class than how things were done on this thread. Calling people names on a public forum.... come on... unjustifiable by grown men for any reason in my book.

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456722
02/10/19 09:44 AM
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not defending Andy at all and feel bad for those that got took.just hard to comprehend someone isn't what you thought.by the time this finishes trickling down i believe we will see just how bad this situation is.BAD.i couldn't believe it at first and thought it was just a peein match but not anymore.









Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456724
02/10/19 09:45 AM
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once in a while i guess you have to beat that dead horse.









Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: pcr2] #6456728
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I ordered some bait from Andy a couple years ago, and it took a little longer than it should of to get here. Fortunately, it wasn't trapping season, and when Andy sent it, he threw in some lure to "make it right." I've bought a lot of supplies from MTP, Schmitt Enterprises, Jade/Jeremy Cumberland, and the Kaatz Bros. If I put an order in with these companies at noon, it's on my door step by 2:00 PM the following day. Granted, I'm in the region, and they use SpeeDee delivery, but companies like these set the example for customer service and public relations. Wade is correct, in this day and age, individuals have no excuse not to send you a text, email, or make a phone call...it's completely unacceptable. I also understand Andy's a trapper, but if you're going to trap during trapping season, and you have a business, you need to hire someone to fill your orders or shut it down until season ends.

Be good to people, be honest with people, and be respectful of people. Andy gets no sympathy from me.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456742
02/10/19 10:08 AM
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I deal with mn trapline products so would never get scammed but why don't you guys drive right to his house? I would think that be a good starting place. Obviously he isn't responding on here

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Yes sir] #6456745
02/10/19 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I know guys on here that have been taken for more $ than what we are talking about on here and handled it with more class than how things were done on this thread. Calling people names on a public forum.... come on... unjustifiable by grown men for any reason in my book.


Didn't you take the same approach towards me just a while back over a June post? I believe you did.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456756
02/10/19 10:23 AM
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If called you name I will sincerely apologize for it. But I don't remember it and seems out of character if did. I'm sorry if I acted that way and would be completely be in the wrong for it.

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Yes sir] #6456769
02/10/19 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
If called you name I will sincerely apologize for it. But I don't remember it and seems out of character if did. I'm sorry if I acted that way and would be completely be in the wrong for it.

That's pretty "stand up" in my opinion. Way to lead by example Yes sir. Rational thought and discussion keeps things in perspective.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Yes sir] #6456777
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
If called you name I will sincerely apologize for it. But I don't remember it and seems out of character if did. I'm sorry if I acted that way and would be completely be in the wrong for it.


No problem.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456790
02/10/19 11:05 AM
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Dont understand why a man would destroy his own business and livelihood. His product is great and now I'm afraid to order anything. I also wont order 3rd party until all debts are filled and a legitimate explanation comes out .

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: greenetrapper] #6456795
02/10/19 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by greenetrapper
Dont understand why a man would destroy his own business and livelihood. His product is great and now I'm afraid to order anything. I also wont order 3rd party until all debts are filled and a legitimate explanation comes out .


X2


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456802
02/10/19 11:11 AM
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x 3 , ive never been more confused about someone in my life. From past dealings on multiple things ALL of this totally out of character for him, just doesn't make a bit of sense. But what does make sense in this world anymore?


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: pcr2] #6456804
02/10/19 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
once in a while i guess you have to beat that dead horse.


Sometimes several times. Sounds like he’s cutting his own throat.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Yes sir] #6456828
02/10/19 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I know guys on here that have been taken for more $ than what we are talking about on here and handled it with more class than how things were done on this thread. Calling people names on a public forum.... come on... unjustifiable by grown men for any reason in my book.


In Montana we have a saying....dont talk about people behind their back. Public forum is a perfect place to call him out. It is called tough love. And I hope he can humble himself enough to take less than one minute to login and say, "get lost". He has one minute. Stop the grinders, if you don't have time to respond.

The order I bought directly from Andy, wasn't my money, it was my son's hard earned money. The boy is twelve. Defenders, we are treating Andy like Hillary. There is no honesty and decency if we can't rise above all that. My son remembers donating to help Andy with his heart attack. Tough one to lie about.

No matter what.....he Does have one minute

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456841
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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456842
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if no names had been involved it woulda taken me a month of guessing before i'd of ever thought about his.

live and learn,still sad though.









Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: pcr2] #6456843
02/10/19 11:43 AM
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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: pcr2] #6456858
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Originally Posted by pcr2
not defending Andy but are you in the lure biz big sky?i figured Andy would have made you eat crow by now.i don't know all the details which i believe are many but nothing i hate to see worse than infighting amongst ourselves.

PCR there is no fighting amongst ourselves that I am seeing. What I see is people that are defending a man that has a good reputation based on his reputation alone. I am also seeing a fellow trapper try to save his comrades time, money, and a headache down the road. In my opinion more of these posts should be allowed. I cannot understand why lure makers are not held to the same standard as anyone else selling a product on this forum. We have a trap shed with negative/positive feedback. We expect other trappers to look out for us on trap dealings why not on lure/bait dealings. I'll be the first guy to say I find Andy to be a very likeable guy, but at some point you have to sift through the issues.

There's guys that have been in the business for a number of years that have good customer service, they are reliable, and they have an excellent product. You won't see them post on this posting because they are smart enough to stay out of things like this. Then you have the lure makers which in my opinion have rode their likeable personalities, wits, and reputations into the sunset all at the cost of trappers below them. I had a very visible back and forth with a lure maker a while back, and I was told I was being out of line because he had a great reputation etc. Behind the lines I was covered with inbox after inbox regarding the situation but no one would speak up in public, and I am sure the original OP has had the same experience. Heck my inbox is already flashing from my posting yesterday. I've come to my own conclusion if it seems to good to be true, God is brought up in defense in every argument (not saying I don't or you can't believe in God) just saying he shouldn't be used as an object to throw around in every argument, or you have to thump your own chest to do business I am not the right customer for you. You can look back in this post and right out of the woodwork some come crawling.

Now you can say I haven't bought lure (yet) from Andy so I don't have anything to say. That's wrong I am on the guys side that had the guts to put it out there. He's not crawling around in inboxes talking behind people's backs he's letting it all go out public. I only buy probably $150 worth of bait/lure from one person every year. I don't have 10 lures in my bag. I pick one outlet and it all comes from them. I appreciate the fact that issues get pointed out before I make a purchase for next season. You might gaf at my measly $150 I am looking to spend but when you're raising kids, working full time jobs, and going to school for your post-graduates degree full time a $1 is a $1. You take around 100 trappers like myself that are probably looking at that original post, and changing their minds about ordering product that one post alone saved a lot of people headaches until this thing is cleared up.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6456859
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