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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: ebsurveyor] #6456991
02/10/19 02:11 PM
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If your time is worth More than the loss of Your Money , then you may be in the future giving away ALOT of money , it is always been a 2 step process with PayPal and even your Bank to get your Money returned to you from not receiving your Goods , possibly you paid as a friend then in that Case you will Never get your money back . When Cases are Opened on PayPal whichever party is the defending one usally the Seller , PayPal locks there PayPal Account until the matter or matters are resolved .

But hey if you have money to give away without fighting to get it back , you're going to loose ALOT of Money in this day and age .
Yes IT IS a Pain In The Arse , but you gotta do it IF you want your money back . It's America . smile

Last edited by lureintheanimal; 02/10/19 02:20 PM.

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: lureintheanimal] #6457004
02/10/19 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lureintheanimal
If your time is worth More than the loss of Your Money , then you may be in the future giving away ALOT of money , it is always been a 2 step process with PayPal and even your Bank to get your Money returned to you from not receiving your Goods , possibly you paid as a friend then in that Case you will Never get your money back .

But hey if you have money to give away without fighting to get it back , you're going to loose ALOT of Money in this day and age .
Yes IT IS a Pain In The Arse , but you gotta do it IF you want your money back . It's America . smile


Wrong answer, learn who is trustworthy and do business with them. MTP for example, year round I have my orders from them within a few days. When they forget to send something (it happens) an email or phone call will have the missed item in the mail immediately. I buy lots of stuff from Amazon and again another place where I don't need to worry about lost or missing items.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457006
02/10/19 02:25 PM
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PayPal is a 50/50 chance of getting your money back. I ordered from a decal place in Kentucky when I started my company and they sent me and empty envelope. I called them they said it was a mistake and they would mail my items out and 1 month later from them dodging my calls and emails I filed a claim with PayPal and they showed a tracking number to my location for the empty envelope and I was denied my claim. Pay with credit through paypal now not a bank account.
As for Andy its a sad deal. When I first read all this I had my doubts but after seeing that he has been on Facebook and posting its hard not to believe that he wouldn't hear of this and defend his reputation if he wasn't intentionally avoiding these guys. I do like some of his lures but I think ill be buying from the guys that are known to follow through with sales, too many of them to waste my time with stuff like this.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: ebsurveyor] #6457008
02/10/19 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ebsurveyor
Originally Posted by lureintheanimal
If your time is worth More than the loss of Your Money , then you may be in the future giving away ALOT of money , it is always been a 2 step process with PayPal and even your Bank to get your Money returned to you from not receiving your Goods , possibly you paid as a friend then in that Case you will Never get your money back .

But hey if you have money to give away without fighting to get it back , you're going to loose ALOT of Money in this day and age .
Yes IT IS a Pain In The Arse , but you gotta do it IF you want your money back . It's America . smile


Wrong answer, learn who is trustworthy and do business with them. MTP for example, year round I have my orders from them within a few days. When they forget to send something (it happens) an email or phone call will have the missed item in the mail immediately. I buy lots of stuff from Amazon and again another place where I don't need to worry about lost or missing items.



Please don’t get him started on “lost” or “missing” items.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457033
02/10/19 02:54 PM
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I think Andy is Rutting right now.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Dirt] #6457059
02/10/19 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
300 dollars worth of lure. I haven't spent $300 on lure in my lifetime. Must be good stuff.
. I don’t give a darn if it’s 10 dollars worth of lure or 300? If the guy got ripped off that’s the point.

Last edited by blackhammer; 02/10/19 03:37 PM.

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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457090
02/10/19 04:20 PM
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I can say for having a "Heart Attack". Hes still going hard this year trapping.. Looks like hes been up for Days in a Couple Pictures on the Ol Book of Faces. Did All that Money buy some "Go Juice" for trapping?

Hmmm Beav all them Questions you posted.. Those Last 3 Sentences are starting to Make sense....

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457107
02/10/19 04:44 PM
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If it where me who was ripped off and essentially stolen from . I would be calling everyday. If you really want to get his attention try calling at 3 am local time . I would push push and push some more until my situation was cleared up . I'm the kind of guy who can't let it go when I'm done wrong though. Not very Christian like of me but we all have our faults. Lol

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: MO Ricky] #6457113
02/10/19 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MO Ricky
I think Andy is Rutting right now.
.....oh great news, things should get back to normal after a month.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457186
02/10/19 06:13 PM
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Has anyone confronted him on facebook? especially if he's on everyday?

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457200
02/10/19 06:30 PM
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This is not to defend nor to blame - it's speculation. As I recall Andy had a heart attack a year or two ago and needed help with expenses. If that is true it means he was not a wealthy man. After reading this thread my GUESS is that Andy encountered some kind of problem that caused him to get behind both timewise and financially, to the point that he does not know what to do. If that is the case it is of no comfort to trappers who have lost money and/or gone without needed supplies at a time when there are no trapping days to waste. Sure he should communicate, but then what? Make promises he cannot keep? Let's try to give him the benefit of doubt until we find out what really happened. Just my half penny's worth.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: gcs] #6457202
02/10/19 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gcs
Has anyone confronted him on facebook? especially if he's on everyday?


He knows without any doubt. I don't Facebook myself.

Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Furvor] #6457204
02/10/19 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Furvor
This is not to defend nor to blame - it's speculation. As I recall Andy had a heart attack a year or two ago and needed help with expenses. If that is true it means he was not a wealthy man. After reading this thread my GUESS is that Andy encountered some kind of problem that caused him to get behind both timewise and financially, to the point that he does t know what to do. If that is the case it is of no comfort to trappers who have lost money and/or gone without needed supplies at a time when there are no trapping days to waste. Sure he should communicate, but then what? Make promises he cannot keep? Let's try to give him the benefit of doubt until we find out what really happened. Just my half penny's worth.



I think if he'd just talk to folks . That's kind of the crux. If he'd communicate , I feel a lot of this would've been resolved. It can be hard to discuss a "failure", but can be done.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457210
02/10/19 06:44 PM
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I sent him a Facebook message to let him know about this conversation.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457220
02/10/19 06:51 PM
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Let us know what he says back to you.


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457229
02/10/19 06:58 PM
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i was surprised to see cancellations to the Texas predator school on another site.bad for those guys too i bet.









Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457233
02/10/19 06:59 PM
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Gulo, ive got similar story's about Andy, why all of this has me so puzzled, is WAY out of character the guy!

I could understand if it was sickness, etc but the facts he's on facebook having the time of his life out on the trapline
makes it appear at least to me he could care less about all of these problems as well as bigger one's I'm aware of
that are not posted on here!

Like other's I gave for his health bills as ive been there too and everyone on here came to my rescue so I was just
paying it forward but I think all of that support he had from so many on here is what make's this issue with him worse
than if it were someone else!


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Jtrapper] #6457237
02/10/19 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Gulo, ive got similar story's about Andy, why all of this has me so puzzled, is WAY out of character the guy!

I could understand if it was sickness, etc but the facts he's on facebook having the time of his life out on the trapline
makes it appear at least to me he could care less about all of these problems as well as bigger one's I'm aware of
that are not posted on here!

Like other's I gave for his health bills as ive been there too and everyone on here came to my rescue so I was just
paying it forward but I think all of that support he had from so many on here is what make's this issue with him worse
than if it were someone else!

Wish I still had Facebook .


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Lobo Rojo] #6457240
02/10/19 07:02 PM
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Ok,not really


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Re: The Weiser defenders [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6457248
02/10/19 07:06 PM
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Pcr2 the two cancellations in the West Texas Predator Control School has nothing to do with Andy,just two gentlemen from Ok decided they couldn’t come.

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