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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457159
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My son only scored a 57 on the ASVAB test. Where would that put him in the Marines? Rifleman?


"Yeah Henry. Yeah, it's up there.. A whole valley full of prime beaver. A man could live easy the rest of his days."

Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457161
02/10/19 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by arcman
My son only scored a 57 on the ASVAB test. Where would that put him in the Marines? Rifleman?


Isn’t every Marine a rifleman?


Who is John Galt?

You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457162
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Back to the OP's question for his boy.

Just about all branches , junior level cops will spend their first part of an enlistment doing very basic level stuff. Gate guard , some patrol in various areas , some custody stuff , and force protection. Once you reach a certain pay grade , then additional opportunities come up.

However, the Navy has some additional qualifications unique to WHERE you serve . For example , if assigned to a ship , you'll be expected to attain your Surface Warfare qualification. Get assigned to an another area, you might be expected to attain your Information Dominance Warfare or Expeditionary Warfare qualification. That requires you not only know your job , but everyone else's too. Broad knowledge base.

You can only say so much in a resume about standing gate guard , walking a fence , or base patrol.


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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6457164
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
Wait, so the Air Force is the military? In the Marines we always called it the Chair Force.


Did the Marine Corps have to scale back due to treaties ? If so , not by much.

Air Force and Navy did, though. Because both branches have folks on watch who could change the world scope with an order and a push of a button.


I stand by the fact that the Navy is where it's at to build a resume' for police work. Coast Guard would be good, too. And I was Air Guard for awhile, as well.

If a guy is wanting a career as a military cop , that changes things. Me , personally, I'd probably gone Army as the route to Warrant Officer ( CID) is much simpler than Navy or USMC.


You know we Marines are a department of the Navy... ... ... ... ... ... The men's department. grin


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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457165
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Arcman, it really all depends. There are options but the recruiter knows what they are, currently.


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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: DelawareRob] #6457171
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Originally Posted by arcman
My son only scored a 57 on the ASVAB test. Where would that put him in the Marines? Rifleman?


Isn’t every Marine a rifleman?

Well, true. But there are various jobs in the Marines like artillery, communications, logistics, etc. The recruiter is telling him that he can pick his job.


"Yeah Henry. Yeah, it's up there.. A whole valley full of prime beaver. A man could live easy the rest of his days."

Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457177
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I can ask an Army recruiter what that score will get him, but can’t help with Marines or Air Force.


Who is John Galt?

You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457258
02/10/19 07:13 PM
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I sent you a PM arcman. It is from an army prospective so feel free to ignore if you want.


Who is John Galt?

You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457266
02/10/19 07:21 PM
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things get REALLY bad,we will all be glad Minot exists.just sayin. wink









Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457666
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My son asked me to talk to the recruiter last year, because he was going to go into the Marines and become an MP. I told him I wasn't going to talk to the recruiter since I already served in the Marines, (1975 to 1978) and he could sign up if he wanted in another month, due to turning 18, Like you I would have preferred the Air Force or Navy. Don't get me wrong, I liked what I did in the Marines and wouldn't trade it for anything. I did warn him he might be qualified for the MP MOS, but there had to be slots open. Just before he went to boot camp,recruiter told him he'd have to select another MOS since there wasn't any open slots for MP. (I didn't even tell him I told you this might happen.) The MOS he picked has to do with shoulder fired anti-aircraft weapons. Course he might still end up in MPs after a couple of years, time will tell. He's still got 4 weeks of boot camp. Have nothing against recruiters, but they are like used car salesman, tell you anything to close the deal.

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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6457778
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Take a look at the Coast Guard. They have training that can be used on the outside.

Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6458057
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The SF troops here are non-deployable due to our mission. We have one of the largest squadrons of USAF SF as they have a bit to guard. Some of the troops would like to deploy some and pcs more but again due to mission requirements - many times they are stuck here.

Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6458065
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Arcman, if I'm not mistaken a 57 ASVAB won't get him much. Again, if I'm not mistaken. I scored a 123 when I enlisted. Of course my score from high school was pathetic and my recruiter made me take another. Since I wanted to enlist I actually cared to pay attention while taking it. The funny thing is that I scored so high and yet I defied my recruiters advice and demanded the infantry. Although I wouldn't change anything that I ever did, sometimes I do with that I'd have listened, even just a little.


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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6458217
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In the Army a 57 is cook material.
I'd challenge him to retake the test and to study more.

Also for anyone considering raising their hand to take an oath to please first read the document they are swearing to defend. It's not to be taken lightly.


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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6458224
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I was an Air Force Law Enforcement Specialist for 20 years. At the 18 year mark they combined the career fields into one, Security Forces. If he wants to be a cop on the outside I would not recommend he go into the Air Force Security Forces. Some of the guys still get some Law Enforcement experience, but the vast majority don't. I worked 10 years as a patrolman/Desk Sergeant and 8 years as a Criminal Investigator and a couple of years as the NCOIC of the Confinement Facility. I'm now the Chief of Security for a branch of the Air Force Survival School. I still work very closely with the guys in SF. If his goal is to become a LEO on the outside, I personally would have him go another route. Most Marines I have met on the Police Force are outstanding officers, they learn great discipline and most make fine officers.


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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6458225
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Oh, it's pronounced Air FARCE.

And a little history, they were originally known as Morons but didn't know how to spell.


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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: TheBig1] #6458426
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Originally Posted by TheBig1
Arcman, if I'm not mistaken a 57 ASVAB won't get him much. Again, if I'm not mistaken. I scored a 123 when I enlisted. Of course my score from high school was pathetic and my recruiter made me take another. Since I wanted to enlist I actually cared to pay attention while taking it. The funny thing is that I scored so high and yet I defied my recruiters advice and demanded the infantry. Although I wouldn't change anything that I ever did, sometimes I do with that I'd have listened, even just a little.


ASVAB goes up to 99 wink

Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6458440
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You know, after I posted that I was thinking to myself that it was my GT score that was 123. I knew someone would call me on it


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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6458458
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A marine and an Army solder were done going to the bathroom and as the army solder is walking out, the marine says you know in the marines they teach us to wash our hands after we go to the bathroom. The
Army solder responded by saying, in the army they teach us not to pee on our hands.. laugh

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Re: Air Force/Marines [Re: arcman] #6458469
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The air force has cooler duty stations especially if your son likes to trap, I'm active duty navy but I am a corpsman attached to a usmc infantry battalion so I have seen plenty of the marine side of the house and the airforce also has it's own college program you can go to school while in the marines but you have a better chance of not getting deployed while in the air force security forces sonic your son is looking to enlist get a criminal justice degree and transfer out after 4 years and join the police force the airforce is a good way to go if he is considering staying in longer I think he should look at all branches and see which offers the best deal. The military just like every branch is going to get everything they can out of you, there is no reason why your son shouldn't get everything out of whatever branch he joins to the best of his abilities. He also needs to have a lot of consideration for the military itself....its a big commitment and decision for ones life definetly something to think about. Hope your son finds all he is looking for good luck and if you have any question I would he more than happy to answer them for you and your son!!

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