No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458280
02/11/19 06:39 PM
02/11/19 06:39 PM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 161
Lebanon, Missouri
H
H5Farm Offline OP
trapper
H5Farm  Offline OP
trapper
H

Joined: May 2014
Posts: 161
Lebanon, Missouri
I had a forestry guy come out and survey the whole place and write up a wild life habitat plan. He was the one who said it needed logging bad as there is no cover for wildlife and the trees are choking each others full growth.

The logger is a diff guy (the same guy the forester uses if he wins the bid) who wants the 60% cut because its less desirable wood. in the last few years around here 60 /40 their favor is what most people charge. There are no veener logs. Trees too close together to reach full potential yet all the timber was put into stands and only logs will be taken from 2 of the 4 stands of timber areas.

Last edited by H5Farm; 02/11/19 06:47 PM.
Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: jeff karsten] #6458284
02/11/19 06:40 PM
02/11/19 06:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,703
SW PA
W
white marlin Offline
trapper
white marlin  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,703
SW PA
Originally Posted by jeff karsten
A forest has to be taken care of which means thinning out some mature trees read the fine print and make sure your both on the same page as far as what gets cut I've seen blocks of timber leveled because it stated all salable timber on the contract


there can be (and usually IS!) a great deal of difference between selling trees and MANAGING your woodlot.

hire a forester who works for YOU (not the logging company).


"We didn't come all the way out here just to 'feel them on the line.' "
Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458285
02/11/19 06:41 PM
02/11/19 06:41 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
P
pcr2 Offline
"Twerker"
pcr2  Offline
"Twerker"
P

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
your gonna be broke before ya get done payin everybody.about done with half mine.


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458287
02/11/19 06:42 PM
02/11/19 06:42 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,205
PENNSYLVANIA,USA
M
marathonman Offline
trapper
marathonman  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,205
PENNSYLVANIA,USA
estimates are free get 2 more from reputable outfits..also one thing to think about..what is going to be done with the tops that are left..some guys leave a real mess...also in the oak market right now there is a big difference in price ..some of the best quality oak goes overseas [CHINA and GERMANY] for big bucks....lesser quality for a lot less...any woodlot can have some of both..don't be in a big hurry..its not going anywhere

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458289
02/11/19 06:42 PM
02/11/19 06:42 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
P
pcr2 Offline
"Twerker"
pcr2  Offline
"Twerker"
P

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
disclaimer [Linked Image]


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458293
02/11/19 06:48 PM
02/11/19 06:48 PM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 655
PA
L
lumberjack391 Online content
trapper
lumberjack391  Online Content
trapper
L

Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 655
PA
Looks like about 800 in damage

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458295
02/11/19 06:49 PM
02/11/19 06:49 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
P
pcr2 Offline
"Twerker"
pcr2  Offline
"Twerker"
P

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
boat anchor


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: pcr2] #6458299
02/11/19 06:52 PM
02/11/19 06:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,703
SW PA
W
white marlin Offline
trapper
white marlin  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,703
SW PA
Originally Posted by pcr2
your gonna be broke before ya get done payin everybody.about done with half mine.


you can go broke a LOT quicker (and for a LOT longer!) if you screw up the management of your timber.

selling isn't "managing".


"We didn't come all the way out here just to 'feel them on the line.' "
Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458302
02/11/19 06:54 PM
02/11/19 06:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,347
Duluth, MN
C
Clark Offline
trapper
Clark  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,347
Duluth, MN
Since youíre in the Ozarks you need to read about Pioneer forest:

https://ladfoundation.org/pioneer-forest/pioneer-forest-management/

There are times when their style of single-tree selection canít be applied in your oak-hickory forest. However, most of the time it can. The idea originally comes from the Forest Service then they gave up on it and went with clear-cutting. Since the 50ís Pioneer has been applying the selective cut and they have healthier forests with an increasing percentage of white oak. That canít be said of Forest Service land.

Most landowners only get one shot to manage their property, why would you trust the first person who made you an offer?

Clark


Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -Albert Einstein
Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458303
02/11/19 06:56 PM
02/11/19 06:56 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
P
pcr2 Offline
"Twerker"
pcr2  Offline
"Twerker"
P

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
absolutely,


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: white marlin] #6458316
02/11/19 07:08 PM
02/11/19 07:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 655
PA
L
lumberjack391 Online content
trapper
lumberjack391  Online Content
trapper
L

Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 655
PA
Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by pcr2
your gonna be broke before ya get done payin everybody.about done with half mine.


you can go broke a LOT quicker (and for a LOT longer!) if you screw up the management of your timber.

selling isn't "managing".


Just sounded like the OP wasn't too concerned with management, or money. He was going to go with the first guy and his offer.

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458317
02/11/19 07:09 PM
02/11/19 07:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
northern indiana
K
kenny k Offline
trapper
kenny k  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 350
northern indiana
Hay pcr2 how many good wild plants you thing would be gone?

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458318
02/11/19 07:09 PM
02/11/19 07:09 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
P
pcr2 Offline
"Twerker"
pcr2  Offline
"Twerker"
P

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
he's a good guy,he told him so. laugh


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458321
02/11/19 07:13 PM
02/11/19 07:13 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
P
pcr2 Offline
"Twerker"
pcr2  Offline
"Twerker"
P

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 18,917
potter co. p.a.
yeah,logger prolly make a pile on the sang alone.


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458326
02/11/19 07:16 PM
02/11/19 07:16 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 206
new york
M
mike mason Offline
trapper
mike mason  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 206
new york
Never sell timber without a forester and a signed contract. They will act as your agent and you have control over the harvest.Without,it will look like a bomb was dropped and no timber sale in your life time or your children's!

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458327
02/11/19 07:17 PM
02/11/19 07:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,628
E central Il
G
Golf ball Offline
trapper
Golf ball  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,628
E central Il
The last forester I talked to charged 10% and did all the leg work, he measured and marked all trees to be cut and sent out up to a hundred bid packets to loggers around the Midwest. In my case I wanted a select cut with only the ash trees removed as they were going to die anyway ! You can have YOUR timber cut anyway you want and a good forester should be more than willing to work with you if you have thoughts of your own ! If your willing to let anyone have more than 50% of your logs then I have some swamp land for sale , lol !

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458332
02/11/19 07:22 PM
02/11/19 07:22 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,133
Peoria County Illinois
Larry Baer Offline
trapper
Larry Baer  Offline
trapper

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,133
Peoria County Illinois
I sold timber last winter and was paid half up front and the balance when the guy pulled out with the last load as agreed. All of the trees were marked and counted and I saw the logs that were pulled out and loaded. I was happy with what the guy did. I got three quotes. One to clear cut all of it and take anything large enough for a railroad tie, one to cut about half that and the third one only wanted some larger better trees and told me he thought I needed to only cut those and to call him in 10 or 15 years and he will do it again. That's the one I hired and he did great.


Just passin through
Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458339
02/11/19 07:25 PM
02/11/19 07:25 PM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 655
PA
L
lumberjack391 Online content
trapper
lumberjack391  Online Content
trapper
L

Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 655
PA
Illinois has timber??? LOL

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458340
02/11/19 07:26 PM
02/11/19 07:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,711
Manitoba
N
Northof50 Offline
trapper
Northof50  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,711
Manitoba
pcr2 at least you could salvage the two caps.
Never knew what a P.A. bar looked like.

Take 160users advise and have it surveyed by a professional land surveyor, just a little oppsee over the line will cost you legal fees more that what it is worth.

Log cutting for sawing and cutting for firewood is a whole different ball game. There will be 75 % left if only high grading for lumber.

I got them to horse log our ash forest and 30 years later there is no stump damage done or visiable now. There was 25 more cords per acre from the foresters report stated.
And I got 2 weeks of free fertilizer in the end from 2 Persian horses.

Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load??? [Re: H5Farm] #6458358
02/11/19 07:43 PM
02/11/19 07:43 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 774
lewis county,new york
N
newfox1 Offline
trapper
newfox1  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 774
lewis county,new york
Don't shoot but I'm a forester and a logger,were not all bad just take pcr2 for instance he's a good guy.red oak is the most valuable wood ,hickory not so much.the most important thing to consider before you hire any forester or logging contractor is references,and it's your job to check them out,go look at some of thier work,a semi load should be between 5 and 6 thousand board feet.familarize yourself with some of the terms ask some questions,don't leave it up to someone else.the best questions are the one that you know the answers to.if anyone takes offense to questions there UpTo no good. Good luck!! If you have any questions on me.

Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread