Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: shortliner16]
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02/11/19 06:56 PM
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I have ordered from him plenty of times and it always comes fast. BUT I order before the heart of the season. If I need stuff right now I order Weiser's stuff from MTP as it gets here in around 24 hours. Andy traps for a living and to be able to make the lures and baits and collect urine. How can he be expected to ship and complete orders while trying to make stuff. Yes he could use an assistant but instead of whining on the internet and complaining do something and buy it from a supplier that its their only job to send out orders. Reminder for those that are indifferent about weiser. People are far more likely to complain than they are to give good reviews. So for every bad review there are more great reviews. Also might help to order stuff before season. What if you run out of said product? Knock a jug of urine over? If your taking a customer's money without adding that you can't fill orders during the season, you are basically stealing.
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: shortliner16]
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02/11/19 06:58 PM
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I have ordered from him plenty of times and it always comes fast. BUT I order before the heart of the season. If I need stuff right now I order Weiser's stuff from MTP as it gets here in around 24 hours. Andy traps for a living and to be able to make the lures and baits and collect urine. How can he be expected to ship and complete orders while trying to make stuff. Yes he could use an assistant but instead of whining on the internet and complaining do something and buy it from a supplier that its their only job to send out orders. Reminder for those that are indifferent about weiser. People are far more likely to complain than they are to give good reviews. So for every bad review there are more great reviews. Also might help to order stuff before season. you should read the whole post
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: Lobo Rojo]
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02/11/19 07:00 PM
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So a guy should just order from someone else if its trapping season ?
How bout the supplier shouldnt take any orders or take any money if he would rather go trapping instead .
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: KeithC]
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02/11/19 07:15 PM
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The fact that Andy has not responded, when he has almost assuredly heard of the issues and that he is letting things continue to fall apart, leads me to believe that he is likely suffering from severe depression. It is the most logical explanation. I hope he pulls things together and makes things right with the people he has mistreated.
Depression can be crippling and make even small things seem insurmountable. Depression can make very capable people feel incapable of anything.
Keith This makes the most sense to me.
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/11/19 07:22 PM
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Oh boy. Yeah I'm depressed, so send me you're hard earned money. Being depressed does not turn you into a thief. Psychobabble to the extreme. How about the guy just doesn't have any scruples. Haven't heard anything from op in a while, any progress whatsoever?
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: Lobo Rojo]
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02/11/19 07:36 PM
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An inability to act in your own self interest is a hallmark of depression.
I've also had good dealings with Andy and really feel bad to see all of this, so of course I'm looking for some reason for it.
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: Posco]
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02/11/19 08:02 PM
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Depression is debilitating. It shuts down every aspect of a persons life, not just their ability to ship lure. If he was shut down that would be something to consider. Instead, he appears to be having a wonderful time. It also seems, based on comments, that he continues to interact with some people, while shutting out the same people who helped him get where he WAS. That may be depression. Whatever he's doing, he's depressed a lot of people by doing it.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: Posco]
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02/11/19 08:04 PM
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Depression is debilitating. It shuts down every aspect of a persons life, not just their ability to ship lure. I know more about depression than I ever wanted to. Depressed people almost always take part in some form of escapism. They continue to take part in some activity or interest and concentrate on it to the detriment of other things they need to do. That can be almost anything from over eating, substance abuse, hoarding, to taking part in an activity like a sport or even hunting or trapping. Depressed people often focus on one or a few things instead of doing other things they need to do. This does not excuse bad behavior, it explains it. Keith
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: Lobo Rojo]
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02/11/19 08:08 PM
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I'm the OP of this thread. Updates are this. No response from Wieser anywhere. He still continues to post on Facebook regularly. Filed a claim with Pay Pal. It goes through a waiting period to give the vendor a chance to tell his side of the story. Andy did not reply to Pay Pal or dispute my claim, so Pay Pal says I won. But then they go on to say that it may take up to an additional 30 days to receive my refund. I'm assuming that is only if they can collect the money out of his account. If there's no money in there I'm not sure what happens. I assume they shut the account down. Since I started posting a bit about this I'm hearing from quite a bunch of other people that he has stiffed numerous others including other dealers and guys for gland and urine that he bought. Sounds like my $300 is small potatoes compared to what he owes others. Plain and simple it has came out that the guy is a straight up crook.
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: Lobo Rojo]
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02/11/19 08:23 PM
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You that are making excuses for him are way out In left field. If you guys only knew how far this runs and how long It's been going on. But I was sworn to secrecy so I'm not going to say anything more.
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: The Beav]
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02/11/19 08:27 PM
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You that are making excuses for him are way out In left field. If you guys only knew how far this runs and how long It's been going on. But I was sworn to secrecy so I'm not going to say anything more.
Thanks Beav. I think that says enough for me.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: Lobo Rojo]
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02/11/19 08:28 PM
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I'm the OP of this thread. Updates are this. No response from Wieser anywhere. He still continues to post on Facebook regularly. Filed a claim with Pay Pal. It goes through a waiting period to give the vendor a chance to tell his side of the story. Andy did not reply to Pay Pal or dispute my claim, so Pay Pal says I won. But then they go on to say that it may take up to an additional 30 days to receive my refund. I'm assuming that is only if they can collect the money out of his account. If there's no money in there I'm not sure what happens. I assume they shut the account down. Since I started posting a bit about this I'm hearing from quite a bunch of other people that he has stiffed numerous others including other dealers and guys for gland and urine that he bought. Sounds like my $300 is small potatoes compared to what he owes others. Plain and simple it has came out that the guy is a straight up crook. A little progress it seems. I hope it is quicker than thirty days for you to get your money.
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Re: The Weiser defenders
[Re: Lobo Rojo]
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02/11/19 08:48 PM
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I'll repeat what I said earlier for the benefit of the younger guys on here reading this post.Be wary of people who are overly friendly when they hardly know you.
Last edited by Boco; 02/11/19 08:49 PM.
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