Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: H5Farm]
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02/11/19 06:39 PM
02/11/19 06:39 PM
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H5Farm
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I had a forestry guy come out and survey the whole place and write up a wild life habitat plan. He was the one who said it needed logging bad as there is no cover for wildlife and the trees are choking each others full growth.
The logger is a diff guy (the same guy the forester uses if he wins the bid) who wants the 60% cut because its less desirable wood. in the last few years around here 60 /40 their favor is what most people charge. There are no veener logs. Trees too close together to reach full potential yet all the timber was put into stands and only logs will be taken from 2 of the 4 stands of timber areas.
Last edited by H5Farm; 02/11/19 06:47 PM.
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Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: jeff karsten]
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02/11/19 06:40 PM
02/11/19 06:40 PM
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white marlin
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A forest has to be taken care of which means thinning out some mature trees read the fine print and make sure your both on the same page as far as what gets cut I've seen blocks of timber leveled because it stated all salable timber on the contract there can be (and usually IS!) a great deal of difference between selling trees and MANAGING your woodlot. hire a forester who works for YOU (not the logging company).
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Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: H5Farm]
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02/11/19 06:41 PM
02/11/19 06:41 PM
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pcr2
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your gonna be broke before ya get done payin everybody.about done with half mine.
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Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: pcr2]
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02/11/19 06:52 PM
02/11/19 06:52 PM
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white marlin
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your gonna be broke before ya get done payin everybody.about done with half mine. you can go broke a LOT quicker (and for a LOT longer!) if you screw up the management of your timber. selling isn't "managing".
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Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: H5Farm]
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02/11/19 06:54 PM
02/11/19 06:54 PM
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Clark
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Since you’re in the Ozarks you need to read about Pioneer forest: https://ladfoundation.org/pioneer-forest/pioneer-forest-management/There are times when their style of single-tree selection can’t be applied in your oak-hickory forest. However, most of the time it can. The idea originally comes from the Forest Service then they gave up on it and went with clear-cutting. Since the 50’s Pioneer has been applying the selective cut and they have healthier forests with an increasing percentage of white oak. That can’t be said of Forest Service land. Most landowners only get one shot to manage their property, why would you trust the first person who made you an offer? Clark
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -Albert Einstein
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Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: white marlin]
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02/11/19 07:08 PM
02/11/19 07:08 PM
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your gonna be broke before ya get done payin everybody.about done with half mine. you can go broke a LOT quicker (and for a LOT longer!) if you screw up the management of your timber. selling isn't "managing". Just sounded like the OP wasn't too concerned with management, or money. He was going to go with the first guy and his offer.
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Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: H5Farm]
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02/11/19 07:13 PM
02/11/19 07:13 PM
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yeah,logger prolly make a pile on the sang alone.
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Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: H5Farm]
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02/11/19 07:22 PM
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Larry Baer
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I sold timber last winter and was paid half up front and the balance when the guy pulled out with the last load as agreed. All of the trees were marked and counted and I saw the logs that were pulled out and loaded. I was happy with what the guy did. I got three quotes. One to clear cut all of it and take anything large enough for a railroad tie, one to cut about half that and the third one only wanted some larger better trees and told me he thought I needed to only cut those and to call him in 10 or 15 years and he will do it again. That's the one I hired and he did great.
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Re: Logging 60/40 split or $700 a truck load???
[Re: H5Farm]
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02/11/19 07:43 PM
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newfox1
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Don't shoot but I'm a forester and a logger,were not all bad just take pcr2 for instance he's a good guy.red oak is the most valuable wood ,hickory not so much.the most important thing to consider before you hire any forester or logging contractor is references,and it's your job to check them out,go look at some of thier work,a semi load should be between 5 and 6 thousand board feet.familarize yourself with some of the terms ask some questions,don't leave it up to someone else.the best questions are the one that you know the answers to.if anyone takes offense to questions there UpTo no good. Good luck!! If you have any questions on me.
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