I tried this on another site , apparently it go too heated . I just wanted some ideas.

Ok, according to Pope and Young , an animal taken in a " high fence" area isn't an animal taken by "fair chase". According to an official scorer , " high fence" areas have no definitive square acreage .

So if you take an animal off of a military reservation that is encompassed by security fencing , you're hit.

But if you're hunting , say an island , you're good.

Huge broad of knowledge here so I'm sure there's input.

I just don't understand how an area fenced that's larger than many counties violates "fair chase".

Yep..Because there is a fence..I know of a high fence area..It is so big you will not see the fence..except on entrance..the hunter already knows what caliber of animal is inside the fence..he/she just has to find it

That logic makes zero sense to me.

Ok I have been on 3 bases hunting deer. The claim is they are "fenced" but I can assure you the areas I hunted didn't even have much more than a boundary marker. Area I killed the 176in 8 pt at Ft Knox had a guard rail for about 30 yards (next to main rd) and then a sign about every 100 yards. There was even a sliver of private land that ran up into the area. All had a fence and gate at the main entrance but 5 mile down the road on either side a short legged possum could have walk on and off the base. I think Area 79 at Ft knox backs up to a guys house and yard with bean fields 30 yards from the boundary.

In my opinion it would be fenced if there was no "open points of entry or exit. No breaks in fence or barrier.

Did you enter yours , J ?

Bluegrass Army Depot is one place with NO free entry points.

My definition would be if it's high enough that the animal you're hunting can't get out, and it was designed for keeping animals in, versus keeping people and other animals out, then it's a high fence.
I realize that last thing might be a little hard to define, but there are methods of fence design that allows animals to exit yet block ingress.

No sir. Lol . I meant did you enter your buck in P&Y ?

If you killed all the deer inside the fence there will be no more deer in there unless you put more inside of it. If you killed all of the deer in your county more could trickle in. What do you not understand about it?

I think it originally started as "high fence" meaning captive breeding program and has evolved to include "high fence" meaning not free roaming or ranging. Animals could in theory swim off or to an island and do in some places, but not placed there as a captive breed population.

Huh ? If we're talking an area that encompasses several square miles ( probably way more ) really don't see that being a problem.


I'm not sure you're seeing the angle of the question.

Yep..You see that type of high fence all along wildlife corridors on state and federal highways..good point

So does that make that a potential " fair chase" issue ?

In Nevada there are hunt restrictions for some of the places with high fence and crossings for game. I think no hunting within a half mile.

I have killed a nice buck inside a high fence place but I don't brag about it. I am way more proud about shooting a deer in a low fence place. That's my opinion about it.

I would think that most animals in a high fence area are personal property and can be bought or sold and can be "hunted" without regard to state hunting regulations. Free chase animals would not be personal property and would be effected by state hunting regulations. I don't know what happens when you fence in animals that belong to a state.

Keith

Yep..On that type of fencing on highways it let's the outside animal in behind the fence..but it won't let the animal inside the fence out..So if one had that kind of fence then it would be to me still high fence...If someone had a herd of personally owned animals and was letting state owned wildlife in the high fence area that would be another story..LOL

I just came across an ad for elk hunts where bulls scoring 300 and up are increasingly expensive . That might count if they make that guarantee.

But a military installation of 146 square miles could be considered " high fence" by P&Y definition ?

Ft. Sill?

Mike