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Illinois Coyotes #6459201
02/12/19 01:53 PM
02/12/19 01:53 PM
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Peoria County Illinois
Larry Baer Offline OP
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Since last fall I have noticed an absence of coyotes in central Illinois. Others have commented on it too. With all the snow I though I would see some tracks but there are very few. Some have mentioned Parvo and Canine Distemper. I have not seen any dead ones but I have not seen too many live ones either. Any thoughts?


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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459230
02/12/19 02:19 PM
02/12/19 02:19 PM
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Same thing here where I am. Couldn't tell ya why. Nobody I've ask can either. Seems to have happened in several places across the US and part of Canada. Soon as the coyote market isn't hot, their numbers will sky-rocket.


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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459243
02/12/19 02:37 PM
02/12/19 02:37 PM
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edwardsville,IL
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Make catch total has been 40 - 60% off the last three years.


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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459264
02/12/19 02:59 PM
02/12/19 02:59 PM
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Southern Illinois
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They are migrating to an easier life in Chicago.

Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459267
02/12/19 03:01 PM
02/12/19 03:01 PM
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Been seeing that the last 3-4 years this year numbers came back a little...still way too much mange and biting lice(causes the shaved neck look on coyotes). Kill what you can as you can't stop their progress...this is just a hiccup in their cycle.

Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459275
02/12/19 03:06 PM
02/12/19 03:06 PM
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I would call a lack of coyotes a good thing for the other animals in the area.
Fox in particular. I guess I don't see the fascination with an animal that is so disruptive on other animals.
Didn't the government spend millions to get rid of them?
As always
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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459294
02/12/19 03:24 PM
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They have not been as plentiful this year or last in my neck of the woods. Places I normally see them year round I haven't seen but one or two since last spring. Farmers who call me every year asking if I can catch/shoot some for them tell me they aren't around.

I am tickled about it really. I enjoy trapping and shooting them, but if they aren't around maybe I can start seeing more rabbits and quail. Which I enjoy even more.


Down south where we deer hunt I did find a few carcasses. I don't know how or why they died. There are still plenty of them down there either way.

Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459300
02/12/19 03:31 PM
02/12/19 03:31 PM
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Numbers way down here also along with the coon and skunks this season!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459305
02/12/19 03:39 PM
02/12/19 03:39 PM
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Coyote numbers were also way down in Eastern Iowa. Lot of Trappers commenting on this. But for me I have never caught so many Red Fox in my life. They were always getting in my Coyote Snares. And I won't complain for a $10.00 Bill in the Carcass

Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459307
02/12/19 03:41 PM
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Coyote numbers were also way down in Eastern Iowa. Lot of Trappers commenting on this. But for me I have never caught so many Red Fox in my life. They were always getting in my Coyote Snares. And I won't complain for a $10.00 Bill in the Carcass

Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459357
02/12/19 04:24 PM
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Larry You know where I saw a lot of tracks while pulling some muskrat sets yesterday??? On a little half frozen retention pond I trap every year. Red fox and coyote tracks , I like they way they sit on the rat huts. Right in the industrial park in town.

Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459378
02/12/19 04:51 PM
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The last 2 years have had really bad mange. Even though I dont catch that many half were in bad shape very little hair. Of the 8 this year only 1 with mange she was hairless.
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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Law Dog] #6459420
02/12/19 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Numbers way down here also along with the coon and skunks this season!

This^^^^^^^^^. Just awful here


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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459515
02/12/19 07:46 PM
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Plenty of them running around down here -


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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459531
02/12/19 08:01 PM
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I saw 4 coyotes leaving my egg and brooder manure dump the Monday before yesterday at around 4:00am and saw one out my kitchen window running towards my house at around 4:00am, again, on Saturday. It came within 3 feet of my house from the tracks. If we did not have barn cats, I would be setting for them. On the other hand, I might not have barn cats for long, if I don't set for the coyotes. I put my dogs out on the coyote I saw Saturday, but they never got it up.

The coyote I saw Saturday, went right by the pole I chain my coyote to when I take her outside. It may be looking for a mate. It looked to be twice her mass.

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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459633
02/12/19 09:27 PM
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Larry if I understand it right the parvovirus kills the pups in the den . Worst year I’ve had since I started trapping coyotes in 90 !

Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6459658
02/12/19 09:36 PM
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First year any of my family set for coyote caught 7 in under a hundred yard stretch of ditch. Coons on the other hand have been non existent.


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Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Foxpaw] #6459668
02/12/19 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
They are migrating to an easier life in Chicago.

Coyotes are Democrats?


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6460059
02/13/19 09:11 AM
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I've had terrible mange at my place in Peoria Co. Haven't set any traps but lots of cam pics. Only a few appeared to be healthy before the cold weather hit. I would think 20 below with no hair probably didn't work out well for a few of them.

Re: Illinois Coyotes [Re: Larry Baer] #6460226
02/13/19 12:22 PM
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Peoria County Illinois
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I killed 81 off my place in the last 11 years. I live on 60 acres west of Peoria. Last season I got one of my place and this year zip. I have seen a few foxes now and more rabbits. Deer died off threes years ago and this last fall.

Golf Ball - you could be right. I talked to another guy who told me Parvo kills most coyotes in the fall when the milk in the coyotes mother runs out of antibodies. He told me it is always in their population and it comes out when there is stress in the population. He also said coyotes will puke and pass blood and be found around water because they will have a fever.

I never saw a dead one but I did have a good number of tracks early then no tracks like everybody left. I set travel ways and ridges and good spots with not even a track. I have had a hay set 400 yards form my house since the 25th of January now with not one track even passing by. I like not having them actually because the deer need the rest. I just wanted to catch some but it has been hit and miss with the poor trapping conditions and low numbers. Some spots I have took 10 coyote out of one trap in a season and now not a track all season. I never saw a pup all fall or winter. All the ones I caught were males and all but on was big - over 40 lbs. I did get one that had not one ounce of fat anywhere on it.

Half my coyotes for the 11 years I have lived here have bad fur with lice or missing all of their guard hair, scratch backs, wounds, bites all over them, ran over by cars, shot with bird shot , arrows, birth defects, ect. Pretty poor bunch of coyotes here not to mention I have seen every color but black ones now. Only three went to the sale this year. Stayed away from the fox - maybe we will have more this coming year. They are nice to watch.


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