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Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463006
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Whoa a few more Godless on this site then I expected. This country has been in this course for quite sometime. Shouldn't surprise me.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463054
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That's the way to remind people your god is a loving father. Remind them Christianity teaches that failure to believe will get you set on fire to burn for eternity by your loving heavenly father. Just because the idea of a man surviving 3 days in the belly of a great fish sounds ridiculous you better believe it or get set on fire.

Don't forget he created satan just to tempt and deceive you. Otherwise he wouldn't have anybody to torture.

If you get bored put a bowl of candy in the living room. Tell your kids not to eat any then leave the room. Spy through the keyhole so that when they eat a piece you can beat them severely. Remind them for the rest of your life that they are disobedient and only your mercy keeps you from setting them on fire.

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Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: danny clifton] #6463058
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
That's the way to remind people your god is a loving father. Remind them Christianity teaches that failure to believe will get you set on fire to burn for eternity by your loving heavenly father.

Don't forget he created satan just to tempt and deceive you. Otherwise he wouldn't have anybody to torture.

If you get bored put a bowl of candy in the living room. Tell your kids not to eat any then leave the room. Spy through the keyhole so that when they eat a piece you can beat them severely. Remind them for the rest of your life that they are disobedient and only your mercy keeps you from setting them on fire.


Your theology's a little off. God doesn't send us to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). God desires a relationship with us, and our sin separates us from God. Doesn't matter if it's a big sin or a little sin, God's standard is perfection, and none of us can meet that standard. That's why Jesus had to die, He took the punishment that we deserved so that we can present ourselves to God as sinless. So God doesn't send us to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), we send ourselves there.
God didn't create Satan to temp us. Satan was an angel who desired to be like God, and rebelled and left God. God created him as an angel, and then he left later in the scene.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463120
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So god doesn't know the future? kinda puts a big question mark on revelations then.

If your god doesn't really want to torture people then why would he? Doesn't he make the rules?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463130
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Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6463378
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
[quote=kjcouchey]Science has yet to explain creation of the universe itself. Cant create something from nothing. And the big bang theory, creation of life is so far fetched there can be no other conclusion than a divine creator. You can throw materials together as long as you want and you will not create life. I Christianity and Science go together. Back to Noah, How do we find Skeletons of ancient sea animals on mountain sides?

We know the big bang happened because we can still see the light from it, we can literally see the big bang, no matter how hard ive looked ive yet to see God. Life is chemicals, the right combination of chemicals and you have life, a billion years of various chemicals mixing under various temps and conditions and you get single cell life.

Where did the chemicals come from? Let me know when you throw chemicals together and life just jump-starts itself. Sounds like a fairy tale to me.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: PAskinner] #6463382
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Originally Posted by PAskinner

Where did the chemicals come from? Let me know when you throw chemicals together and life just jump-starts itself. Sounds like a fairy tale to me.


This. It may seem silly to think that all animals on earth came from just two of each "kind" after a big flood. I get that. But it's even sillier to think that all the animals on earth came from a non-living thing. One of the basic rules of biology is that life doesn't come from non-life.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463411
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I looked around space and saw no God.

Was it true that Yuri Gagarin was a devout Christian and someone else put those famous words in his mouth?

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: Foxpaw] #6463419
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
I looked around space and saw no God.

Was it true that Yuri Gagarin was a devout Christian and someone else put those famous words in his mouth?


You can look for God and not find him. God doesn't honor the casual observer. God puts it into some men's hearts to seek after him, others he lets go along their way.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463428
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Jellyfish have been surviving forever with no brains, so maybe humans will have a chance.


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Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: Foxpaw] #6463437
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
I looked around space and saw no God.

Was it true that Yuri Gagarin was a devout Christian and someone else put those famous words in his mouth?



A Soviet cosmonaut representing a State whose national doctrine was atheism makes that statement.

I'm shocked.

However, It's also reported that he never said those words.


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Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463461
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It boils down to accountability and pride.

IM MY OWN BOSS! YOU AINT GONNA TELL ME!

The Bible says we all have the same evidence of GODs existence. The Bible says we all know the truth (that being Gods truth).

He makes Himself visible right here in our every day lives (proof of creation). No need to look to space for proof! They are looking in space to disprove God (if we can just find life). Macro evolution: not a lick of proof (none)! Micro evolution: happens every second! So the will use micro evolution to validate macro evolution. Carbon dating is a joke at best! Global warming or climate change? Please, make your minds up already. Do we have 10, 20, or a million years before we destroy the earth? God says He will destroy the earth (not us)! So, all we have to do is mix a few chemicals out in space and we could create life? Do you realize there are an infinite combinations of chemicals that if we're changed just one degree that life would cease to exist here on earth?

Well

You are your own boss and their sure ain't nobody a telling you squat! Good luck with that one. But if you run into me either electronically or in person your most likely gonna get the cold hard truth! Your a worthless reprobate just like everyone else fixing to die and burn in H3ll unless you repent and trust in Jesus Christ and His SHED BLOOD as your payment for your sin. This way your blood will not be found on my hands when I meet our maker! He will ask you why you didn't repent and accept him on your judgment day (you won't be able to say i didn't tell you. I'm shooting for a "job well done my good and faithful servant".

Good luck and love you all!

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Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463464
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Don't worry

A.O.C. is here to save us all! I'm sure she has a plan to save you.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463479
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Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: loosegoose] #6463505
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by PAskinner

Where did the chemicals come from? Let me know when you throw chemicals together and life just jump-starts itself. Sounds like a fairy tale to me.


This. It may seem silly to think that all animals on earth came from just two of each "kind" after a big flood. I get that. But it's even sillier to think that all the animals on earth came from a non-living thing. One of the basic rules of biology is that life doesn't come from non-life.


That is not a rule of biology. If someone produced single cell life tomorrow from nothing but chemicals you would still say "well thats just single cell life that doesnt prove anything". I get it, there is nothing that can be said that could convince you there is no god because you rely on faith and that is probably a good thing for you! Just dont act so sure of yourself to the rest of us who choose to believe evidence that counters your faith.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463508
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You guys do fully understand the "you cant get something from nothing" argument goes both ways right?

There are things we do not understand but because some things are not wrapped up neatly with a bow on top it does not provide evidence to back claims of a God.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463511
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So when was the newest species of deer or bear created? If rhinos are almost extinct, how come evolution isn’t making more of them? How come mammoth’s and dinosaurs haven’t repopulated the Earth yet since they just grow from nothing? Sometimes I think about things like that.


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Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463512
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Creating life from non-life is called abiogenesis. This is the Wikipedia article about it. It's the idea that life was started from non-living things. There are all kinds of theories about how it could work, you can read about them in the article if you'd like. None of them have ever gotten close to recreating any sort of thing resembling life, that is the important thing to take away. Scientists can create experiments that can produce complex organic compounds, but organic compounds aren't life. The idea that life can come from non-life is on it's face ridiculous. Saying life came here came here from other planets still doesn't explain how that life got started. For abiogenesis to be true, you must believe that some chemicals kinds sorta accidentally by chance mixed together in just the right way, under just the right conditions, and didn't get destroyed, and somehow started reproducing themselves, and on and on and on, and eventually those chemicals were suddenly alive, and then they turned into multiple celled organisms, and then the just kinds sorta accidentally by chance turned in to you, and me, and coyotes, and eagles, and trees, and whales, and on and on and on. All by accident, just by random chance.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: wetdog] #6463548
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In the hundreds of thousands of years modern humans have been on earth we never came close to making a nuclear reaction, then in a sudden burst of research and knowledge we not only created a nuclear reaction we harnessed its power into both weapons and electricity. That is how these things work. Because we currently lack understanding of certain phenomenon it is not evidence to support your faith. I am glad you have faith but it is just that as there is a lack of evidence to support it being anything more than that.

Re: Are we reliving the days of Noah? [Re: danny clifton] #6463559
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
That's the way to remind people your god is a loving father. Remind them Christianity teaches that failure to believe will get you set on fire to burn for eternity by your loving heavenly father. Just because the idea of a man surviving 3 days in the belly of a great fish sounds ridiculous you better believe it or get set on fire.

Don't forget he created satan just to tempt and deceive you. Otherwise he wouldn't have anybody to torture.

If you get bored put a bowl of candy in the living room. Tell your kids not to eat any then leave the room. Spy through the keyhole so that when they eat a piece you can beat them severely. Remind them for the rest of your life that they are disobedient and only your mercy keeps you from setting them on fire.


Men made up this myth of eternal punishment after death to control other men during their lives. Religion is mostly about controlling other people by using God's punishment as a threat and heaven as a reward.

Keith

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