No actually I would say, "It would seem that intelligent design is viable."

And on a completely unrelated topic... Why is a single cell organism hailed as life? Yet a cluster of cells growing in a womb isn't?

Mike

Keith,

That makes absolute zero sense seeing as how freedom , as we know it , is a relatively new concept . Why go through the trouble of creating a religion when a sovereign can just decree something ?

A sovereign is only one person. In order to get everyone to obey them they need a reason for people to do so. Like the belief that a deity has chosen the sovereign.

Aaron, first off it's much easier to rebel against a sovereign than a God. Second, through most of human history the leaders of most civilizations were considered Gods and at least ran the religion for that civilization. Egyptian Pharaohs were considered to be Gods. Roman Emperors were considered to be Gods. Viking leaders were considered to be descendants of Gods. The English Kings controlled the Catholic church in England and actually created the Church of England, when they lost power over the Catholic Church. Many Catholic Popes were emperors of the Holy Roman Empire. Most African tribes are ruled over by the witch doctor. Religion is the most effective tool for controlling people in existence.

That said, I do believe there is a generally benevolent God, who at least started everything. I don't think there is a single, living human being that knows the truth about God. I suspect we are made somewhat in God's image. I suspect God wants us to do well and become more like him. I suspect there is some form of reincarnation.

Keith

Every time someone complains about the wind blowing I know they are lying, because I cant see it.

There is no excuse for plane crashes because there is no such thing as gravity, because I cant see it.

People smarter than I tell me that all solid things are actually atoms moving around but somehow stay in the bounds in which they are in. If I could once see a chair that was in liquid motion, it would I think take faith to sit in that chair. Energy is never destroyed so the smarter people say, it goes from one form to another, thermal is a good example of the exchange of energy. But since I cant see it it must all be a lie.

Eh, when she goes she goes. No point in trying to predict it because you won't be saving anything anyway.

I would say that everything is proof of a Creator. Knowing the true nature of that Creator is much more of quandary.

Keith

I think the possibility of a creator is real.

If that creator wanted us to know for sure we would. Humans all over the planet would have the same knowledge of that creator with no room for debate.

Yep.

Keith

Pretty much how people view the existence of God

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6i94KLhKS4

Seems there was an event happened a little over 2000 yrs ago up on a hill that was not done in a corner. I dont think it was so much no one knew they just didnt beleive it. What sign would have to happen to leave no debate?

There are around 7.53 billion people in the World. There are only around 2.19 billion Christians and most are pretty disparate from each other in their beliefs. Any god, who would make it a requirement to avoid eternal punishment, that you must believe and worship him in a very specific manner, who would allow that much division, is either extremely incompetent, an extreme sadist, or both.

Most people belong to a religion because they were brought up in it. Very few question the nature of God.

Keith

Foxpaw, when Constantine decided to unite all the tribes in his empire under one religion they had to create it. Christians of the day did not agree on whether or not Jesus was divine. They literally took a vote. There were many different brands of "Christianity". Many aspects of the different pagan religions were incorporated into the new one.

I believe a rabbi named Jesus was crucified by the Romans. I do not believe in the post Constantine Christion version of what happened.

Are you kidding me.. . No room for debate.?? Look around you today Danny, truth is ignored on a daily basis because it doesn't fit some peoples agenda... He did want everyone one to know, he sent his son to walk this earth, die on a cross and be resurrected 3 days later. People who saw it first hand didn't want to believe it in those days because it didn't fit their agenda. People today don't want to believe because it doesn't fit their agenda.

I believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior and am not about to deny Him here as I have enough failings in trusting He will not deny me later.

I always thought that Constatine and his mother did a great thing in stopping the Romans and their appetite for crulety by crucifiction and impalement and I suppose being fed to the lions would be no picnic. Can you imagine killing people on crosses til there was virtually no trees left? And they didnt just use a cross or stake one time, it had many victims. So I can see how people might be driven instead of drawn.
If because of persecution they united into a Christian State, what other State would be preferable?

Can you just imagine hearing the roar of a lion because of your beliefs. As bad as it might seem I dont think that would be as bad as hearing the old rooster crow for denying a good friend

Knowledge will double every 12-13 hours in 2020??????? Who ever thought that up hasn't spent any time around a person under the age of 25.

How free are you to choose if you are not allowed to doubt?

Christianity had been flourishing for three hundred years before Constantine ever came along. There's no evidence he converted to Christianity, it was strictly a political move on his part.

I think your posts are spot on.

Just because people babel about each other or things on the net doesn't mean its added "knowledge". Its just added cumulative "X"s and "0"s. Not all "knowledge" is equal...