Re: big wreck
[Re: racerboy108]
#6464924
02/17/19 08:57 PM
02/17/19 08:57 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 5,851 perry co.Pa
wetdog
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 5,851
perry co.Pa
|
Not to mention to many drivers are only there cause their daddy has money. So someone's daddy's money makes you be able to drive at 200 mph and maintain control So if you hit the lottery the you could drive that well
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: rivercabin53]
#6465115
02/17/19 11:21 PM
02/17/19 11:21 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 7,236 West Michigan
Getting There
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 7,236
West Michigan
|
The owner should only have one car in the race, take the spotters off the top of the stands, take the radios out of the cars. Schedule pit stops why get put to the back of the pack because you did not put on all the lug nuts or run over a air hose. Get back to racing! JMO
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: racerboy108]
#6465277
02/18/19 07:46 AM
02/18/19 07:46 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715 Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
|
"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715
Eastern Shore of Maryland
|
Not necessary wetdog.
But let's take Paul Menards for example.
He has been in this level of NASCAR for many years and yet is not the caliber of driver that deserves the position.
He did not move up the ranks and earn his driver position.
He brought on sponsorship which got him the position. Taking a position away from someone else that deserves it. It's why the real competition was amongst just a few drivers. Giving us less desirable races.
Danica Patrick was another filling a spot she didn't deserve. She was marketable. That's why she got it.
Then you have the Dillion brothers. Grandpa has money but the boys are not competitive. More spots taking away from talent.
So there are great drivers out there that are poor at selling themselves and their talent, I'll buy that.
-Goofy-
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: rivercabin53]
#6465295
02/18/19 08:16 AM
02/18/19 08:16 AM
|
krispcritter
Unregistered
|
krispcritter
Unregistered
|
Don't forget those cars are set to only go left. You could push one around the track with a golf cart and no driver and they would track properly. Now...when they go to "The Glen" and have to drive up hill, down hill, turn left, turn right, that's driving.
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: rivercabin53]
#6465296
02/18/19 08:16 AM
02/18/19 08:16 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715 Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
|
"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715
Eastern Shore of Maryland
|
As far as I know the only spots guaranteed are "Past Champions".
Everybody else has to qualify.
What you are trying to sell is that if Richard Childress didn't have grandchildren he would still field cars, we don't know that and NASCAR doesn't force anybody to be an owner.
Also, people aren't lining up to be car owners.
-Goofy-
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: racerboy108]
#6465317
02/18/19 08:52 AM
02/18/19 08:52 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715 Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
|
"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715
Eastern Shore of Maryland
|
I don't get your argument Hobbie?
My point is some driver positions are being filled with not so talented but rich drivers.
This takes away from the competiveness of the race.
Filling your race with track fillers don't make a exciting race. No argument. I'm just pointing out that your assumption is that those rides would be there for "someone else" who may or may not make it at that level. Maybe, maybe not. BTW, Wetdog I believe that is Jeffery that Gibbs is taking a chance on, not Kerry.
-Goofy-
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: racerboy108]
#6465359
02/18/19 09:55 AM
02/18/19 09:55 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715 Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
|
"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715
Eastern Shore of Maryland
|
The positions on the track would be there for others to fill. Whether or not they get filled is a unknown but I think they would be filled. As more upcoming drivers would be given the opportunity and possibly new owners would emerge.
Owners filling these positions with not so talented drivers do not do the sport any good. Fans want to see a competitive race. They want to see the new upcoming underdog beat the guy that comes in week after week winning races.
Ever watch a golf match or see the standings? Many of the drivers competing where the top of their level. Juan Plablo comes to mind yet he didn't prove to be all that in a cup car. "The cream rises to the top" in any sport and it ain't very thick. There will never be 41 Kyle Busches or Brad Kezalowskies on the track at one time.
Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 02/18/19 09:56 AM.
-Goofy-
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: rivercabin53]
#6465401
02/18/19 10:44 AM
02/18/19 10:44 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715 Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
|
"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715
Eastern Shore of Maryland
|
I agree with much of that however after that last pit stop it's in the hands on the wheel. Use it up, save it, a combination of both, praying the car in front of you blows up or runs out of gas is a skill all of us have. lol
Technology has made it more competitive to me. I recall being at Dover one year Richard Petty blew an engine and it took 7 laps before he fell from the top spot on the scoring pylon. Wasn't much of a race up until that point. lol
Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 02/18/19 10:45 AM.
-Goofy-
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
#6465504
02/18/19 12:40 PM
02/18/19 12:40 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,663 S.E. Ohio
M.Magis
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,663
S.E. Ohio
|
150,000 at Daytona......Ok. Huh? Discussion, as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with crowd size. Try to keep up.
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: M.Magis]
#6465526
02/18/19 01:13 PM
02/18/19 01:13 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715 Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
|
"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 28,715
Eastern Shore of Maryland
|
150,000 at Daytona......Ok. Huh? Discussion, as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with crowd size. Try to keep up. I have no idea what you are talking about then because they had teams that didn't qualify and went home apparently they had plenty of folks that wanted to be in it.
-Goofy-
|
|
|
Re: big wreck
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
#6465529
02/18/19 01:22 PM
02/18/19 01:22 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,663 S.E. Ohio
M.Magis
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,663
S.E. Ohio
|
I have no idea what you are talking about then because they had teams that didn't qualify and went home apparently they had plenty of folks that wanted to be in it.
The 500 always has excess teams show up because it's big enough that small teams can show up and run like crap, yet still not lose money. Sponsors actually get their money's worth. Watch the rest of the year and you'll see. The days of 46+ teams showing up for qualifying every week are long gone. If I recall, the spring Atlanta race last year only had 35 or 36 cars show up. So the argument that "rich kids" are taking up spots that could be filled by more talented drivers is about 15 years outdated and ridiculous these days.
|
|
|
|
|