18 car in the big race

NASCAR isn't racing anymore. Follow in a big line wait for the big one. If your lucky enough to miss it you finish well. They have ruined what was once a lot of fun to watch.

Not to mention to many drivers are only there cause their daddy has money.

Thought you were going to mention the 50 car pileup in MO.

So someone's daddy's money makes you be able to drive at 200 mph and maintain control
So if you hit the lottery the you could drive that well

The last 2 crashes were awesome. The crashes are ther only thing I like about nascar. It's gone so far away from stock car racing they really need to change their name. Their ain't no Camry that go 190 mph stock

I agree Adam that slowmo footage is awesome
And it was cool to see J D Gibbs number win
Even though I don't like Denny Hamlin

Not necessary wetdog.

But let's take Paul Menards for example.

He has been in this level of NASCAR for many years and yet is not the caliber of driver that deserves the position.

He did not move up the ranks and earn his driver position.

He brought on sponsorship which got him the position. Taking a position away from someone else that deserves it. It's why the real competition was amongst just a few drivers. Giving us less desirable races.

Danica Patrick was another filling a spot she didn't deserve. She was marketable. That's why she got it.

Then you have the Dillion brothers. Grandpa has money but the boys are not competitive. More spots taking away from talent.

I agree on all points.
But they can still handle a car.For the most part
How many average people have even driven 150+ and had to keep control and make a turn and not hit the car beside you.

My Mom always told me that could happen.

The owner should only have one car in the race, take the spotters off the top of the stands, take the radios out of the cars. Schedule pit stops why get put to the back of the pack because you did not put on all the lug nuts or run over a air hose.
Get back to racing! JMO

So there are great drivers out there that are poor at selling themselves and their talent, I'll buy that.

For sure some drivers have the talent but don't have the marketable part.

And there are lots of drivers that just don't get the break needed to go from poor to riches as it takes lots of money to move up to get to the level of getting noticed.

My point was there are to many that are in the sport filling spots because they have the money but not the talent.

NASCAR only allows so many drivers to participate in a race so that leaves less opportunities for talent to rise if those seats are filled with rich but not so talented drivers.

Take Jimmie Johnson for example. He didn't have the money to get himself to the highest level till Jeff Gordon gave him the opportunity. Martin Truex and Brad Kesolowski probably would not be there if Dale Jr did not help out.

Very few top drivers make it on their own. Like you said they sold themselves and got noticed.

But way to many get there without the talent but buy their way in and taking a competitive seat away from the races.

Don't forget those cars are set to only go left. You could push one around the track with a golf cart and no driver and they would track properly. Now...when they go to "The Glen" and have to drive up hill, down hill, turn left, turn right, that's driving.

As far as I know the only spots guaranteed are "Past Champions".

Everybody else has to qualify.

What you are trying to sell is that if Richard Childress didn't have grandchildren he would still field cars, we don't know that and NASCAR doesn't force anybody to be an owner.

Also, people aren't lining up to be car owners.

I don't get your argument Hobbie?

My point is some driver positions are being filled with not so talented but rich drivers.

This takes away from the competiveness of the race.

Filling your race with track fillers don't make a exciting race.

If a driver has talent, do you think someone is not going to give him a ride?
Even If its only on a limited basis
Kerry earnheart is getting his chance from Joe Gibbs in the xfinaty series this season
Brian France started down the wrong road after Bill Jr passed
Now that he's out of the way, it will get a little better

There are drivers that don't get the opportunity because the opportunities are filled with buy my way in drivers.

There are only so many driver positions available and starting a new team is very expensive.

No argument. I'm just pointing out that your assumption is that those rides would be there for "someone else" who may or may not make it at that level. Maybe, maybe not.

BTW, Wetdog I believe that is Jeffery that Gibbs is taking a chance on, not Kerry.

The positions on the track would be there for others to fill. Whether or not they get filled is a unknown but I think they would be filled. As more upcoming drivers would be given the opportunity and possibly new owners would emerge.

Owners filling these positions with not so talented drivers do not do the sport any good. Fans want to see a competitive race. They want to see the new upcoming underdog beat the guy that comes in week after week winning races.