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Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? #6466227
02/19/19 02:01 AM
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Not trying to hippie out but my son says the wall is going going to interfere with butterfly 🦋 migration and possibly lead to exstinction. Is this a real concern?

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466229
02/19/19 02:10 AM
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No, but if it melts snowflakes then I'm for it.

Your son needs an education, see to it.


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Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466231
02/19/19 02:54 AM
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I’m glad you think it’s not a problem. Leaving politics out of it purely a butterfly issue what you basing your conclusion on? If he has been getting bad info I want to tell him but I need a plausable argument to present.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466234
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Butterfly's can fly over the wall.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466243
02/19/19 04:36 AM
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My guess is this is Democrap propaganda. If a butterfly can make it from Minnesota to Mexico, I'm sure they can get over a 20ft wall. I let monarchs go every year and they often times fly right up and over my 70 ft trees here.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466245
02/19/19 04:45 AM
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the SCOTUS ruled against the animal rights group because their claims were not valid

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466251
02/19/19 05:47 AM
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Monarch butterflies have been seen as high as 11,000 feet by glider pilots.


So the height of the wall shouldn't be an issue.


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Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466268
02/19/19 06:45 AM
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Mexicans can climb 20 feet with ladders, so why can't butterflies fly over a 20' wall?

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466273
02/19/19 06:57 AM
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I'd like to be a fly on the wall when you ask him for his evidence of the death of the butterflies. Reminds me of the video going around how the wolves rerouted rivers by killing everything in their path.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q

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Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466307
02/19/19 07:41 AM
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I also heard it will be very bad for wildlife.... laugh

Maybe we need to build it and see what happens? Sort of like passing the aca so we can see what the bill says?


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Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466309
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Monarch butterflies over several generations can fly from Mexico to Canada, fly over the Great Lakes, over the Appalachian and Adirondack mountains, but the border wall will lead to their extinction. What a crock of $hit.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466319
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I’ve heard it all now.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: M.Magis] #6466370
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I’ve heard it all now.

Oh...just wait, they'll think of more.


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Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466374
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There is so much non sense spewed about the negative effects of a wall. We have had walls for generations. Animals and wildlife in general adapts to the environmental changes. Always does.

If the wall even has the slat design it will have no behavioral changes for any birds, insects or butterflies. If any they may have to fly a bit higher then normal to get over it.

They will be some good snare and conibear areas to work with once it has been there a few years.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466389
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With the slat design, bigger birds wont be able to fly thru it.

Maybe there needs to be a 10 million dollar study, shouldnt take too many years to do that.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466399
02/19/19 09:46 AM
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I guess my first question would be, how old is muskrat11 son? I was concerned with Wind farm kill bee's. We know they kill Hawks and other birds. I know there will be post that some are glad they kill hawk. Save your fingers we all know that already.


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Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466419
02/19/19 10:11 AM
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Y'all are looking at it wrong. The wall makes it easier for butterfly poachers who pluck rare insects that land on walls to rest. You would be amazed at the market them sell for weddings, butterfly gardens, collectors. The EEP (Entomology Enforcement Police) would have all sorts of problems at the border since Mexico does not recognize US butterfly collection regulations.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466425
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Tell him he just got "jussied" and move on.

Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466432
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Make sure you tell him the Mexicans need to sell the butter flies to pay for the wall..


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Re: Is the border wall going to kill butterflies? [Re: muskrat411] #6466435
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I went to a big wedding in Ohio. They had 300 butterflys in cases( similar to cocoons but not exactly). They had them shipped in from Californy at a big price. I think they kept them cold and then like 3 days before the wedding they put them in a warm temp at a certain degrees and they hatched into beautiful butterflies.
No butterflies were injured and all were set free( its a secret but one little girl pulled the wings off hers, I know you guys can keep a secret so dont tell anybody).

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