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Written permission #6464617
02/17/19 04:14 PM
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If a landowner has his or her land leased to hunters, and the hunters want a trapper to help with predator control, can the leasing hunters sign legal written permission or only the landowners?

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Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464625
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You have to get permission from the landowner.

Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464630
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The terms of the lease should spell that out. If not specifically mentioned then it reverts to the landowner.


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Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464642
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Get both and cover you butt

Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464673
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In some states permission can be given by the land owner or their agent.

Keith

Re: Written permission [Re: KeithC] #6464693
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But if you dont clear it with the landowner and its against his wishes you will be done thete one way or the other. Hes still the landowner

Re: Written permission [Re: ] #6464731
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Originally Posted by dirtydogtrapping
Originally Posted by KeithC
In some states permission can be given by the land owner or their agent.

Keith

this is true in Oregon. Lessor's have domain over such land under a lease. Like your land lord can't just walk in to your house.

But the landlord can tell you you cant have other people living there

Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464743
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In general I’d say it depends on the terms of their lease. Some leases may allow the hunters to utilize contractors to improve the hunting conditions, some may not. Does their lease only allow them to hunt, or also make improvements? All that said, I don’t know your state laws.

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Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464792
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I assumed it would have to go through the landowner, but I know in some lease contracts the landowner signs over most of their control until the contract is up. I do not believe that this case has an actual signed paper contract. If the hunters can bring other people hunting without notifying the landowner shouldn't it be the same for trapping?

Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464821
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Depends on the lease but it sounds like both the hunters with the lease and yourself have some reservations about asking the landowner. If that is the case, I think you're likely on really thin ice and looking to have an issue.

ETA- if there is no signed lease they don't have the right to give out written permission. At that point, you are not a "guest".

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Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464831
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Here your best bet is got a hold of the land owner, or see a copy of the lease agreement, which sometimes can be a real pain to do. You should approach the leaser owner and explain the situation so as to not get thrown off the ground due to a miss-understanding of who has the rights. Just depends on how those lease's are set up, you know the fine print !!

Some leases don't even give the leaser permission to hunt or fish or anything else, and it's found out by the land owner whats going on and every one is kicked out.

Some landowners don't care, others will have hunting or fishing but no trapping, or they want their share of the fur check, this was a problem for myself when I was doing some bird hunting clubs depredation, when the land owner found out the leaser was doing bird clubs without his permission he shut 3 of them down due to his not liking hunting.

We have a lot of large amounts of private ground leased out to care takers who also do the deer and elk and other hunting work through the seasons, it pay's to check everything before just setting up !


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Re: Written permission [Re: lgtrapn] #6464845
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That is not the case. I know the landowner personally, better than I do the hunters. I worked for him for almost two years, there would be no issue trapping this property. The hunters just asked if they could give permission and I told them I didn't know.

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Depends on how the agreement was written up. If it's not stated in the agreement you have to go to the land owner . I run into this a lot with farmer"s that has farm's least for row crops and have beaver issues and I asked our local W.O the question earlier in the season. Hope's this helps.

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Originally Posted by lgtrapn
If a landowner has his or her land leased to hunters, and the hunters want a trapper to help with predator control, can the leasing hunters sign legal written permission or only the landowners?


Originally Posted by lgtrapn
That is not the case. I know the landowner personally, better than I do the hunters. I worked for him for almost two years, there would be no issue trapping this property. The hunters just asked if they could give permission and I told them I didn't know.


I'm confused. What is the reason for the question that doesn't really seem to need an answer?


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The question was whether or not people leasing could legally give written permission to trap. I don't need it in this particular situation, and didn't realize I implied that. Sorry for the confusion. Thank you all for your replies too.

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