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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: 330-Trapper] #6468850
02/21/19 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Its one they haven't been able to synthesize yet!!! Good for us


My understanding is that they do have synthetic castor which has always helped keep a cap on what natural castor can get on the international market.

But on the other hand, trying to get factual information on the international castor market (that is so darn secretive) is nigh on next to impossible. I assume that at least part of that is to keep the do-gooders out of the equation.


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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6468855
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What drives the castor market? I know that its used in other things than just lure. Seems like that is the driving force behind the market price rather than lure makers but I could be wrong I guess.

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6468883
02/21/19 02:20 PM
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Low prices on beaver and short catches drive up castor prices.

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6468890
02/21/19 02:33 PM
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VERY nice job on those castors Beaverpeeler!

Sure glad to hear nothing will change with Backbreaker. I caught two using it this morning. Wish we had more beaver.


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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6468902
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Thanks sniperbbb. That would make sense.

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6468977
02/21/19 04:47 PM
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Beaverpeeler I bet that room smells good with all that castor drying in their.

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6469264
02/21/19 08:50 PM
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I sold for 85 a lb. That still doesn't make beavers a big money item. And beaver you're number seems high here its about 6.5 to 7 beaver a pound 10 would be very small unhealthy beaver

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6469281
02/21/19 09:03 PM
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Poor management probably.
I don't weigh my castors when I sell them-I count them.I let the buyer weigh them.I avg just over $10 cdn per beaver for castor.For example,I sold 120 castors a while back and received $1250

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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: cfowler] #6469285
02/21/19 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cfowler
Sure glad to hear nothing will change with Backbreaker.


Me, too. I haven't used it yet but I intend to use it on cats next season. You need to be able to depend on some things in life.

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6469436
02/21/19 11:42 PM
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I’m assuming those are dried castors?? Have you ever sold them green? How much weight will lose
in the drying process? I’ve only sold a few fresh frozen and I got a lot less than you guys.

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6469486
02/22/19 01:16 AM
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You don't lose all that much weight drying castors. I squeeze out most of the liquid (which I use as lure) and then just dry for about 4-6 days with forced air and about 75F for temp. Make sure to flip them so there are no wet spots. I typically lose only 14 to 15% of the wet weight.


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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6469492
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So you drain the castor gland then offer poundage?

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6469731
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I read once that the synthetic castor they have breaks down after a few years and the perfume is thus changed . The big perfume brands of course do not like that to happen . Good ingredients make good product , be it lure for us or perfume for the ladies .


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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: mnsota] #6469771
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Originally Posted by mnsota
So you drain the castor gland then offer poundage?


That's the best method for quicker drying times. But do not put in Mountain Dew pop bottles ! Or you will have a rude awaking with a big swiggggggggggggggg. That fluid has to dry, so use it as lure.

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: Boco] #6469775
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Originally Posted by Boco
Poor management probably.
I don't weigh my castors when I sell them-I count them.I let the buyer weigh them.I avg just over $10 cdn per beaver for castor.For example,I sold 120 castors a while back and received $1250



Poor beaver management?

You go to the problem area you try to kill every beaver In the area then move on. That's beaver management around here.
Then next year you go back and kill the new beaver that move In.

Every beaver I catch Is worth $50.00 before I ever set a trap. I see nothing wrong with this style of beaver management.

But I'll still use the 10 beaver to a LB of castor figure and I'll be pretty close 9 times out of 10.
It may be different with trapping beaver under the ice and In different parts of the country but spring run and summer caught beaver around here fit the 10 to 1 figure.
I'm not ever going to trap beaver through the Ice It's just not practical and not worth my time.. LOL


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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6469796
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That's too cheap for nuisance beav.I get 75 and even that is too cheap for summer trapping,but then there is the castor.
In a place with lots of roads everywhere I suppose extensive nuisance beaver removal will have a positive effect in maintaining healthy robust beaver populations even if it is reactive instead of proactive.However,good beaver management in season along with nuisance trapping out of season will actually knock back the beaver over time in localized areas on problem drainages.Strictly nuisance trapping alone wont do that long term.You are just clearing good real estate for the unmanaged populations to re-populate.(which will help keep the population at a maximum).
The best way to minimize nuisance beaver problems would be for the price of beaver pelts to avg in the $60-$70 dollar range on the fur market.

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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6469851
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I forgot to mention I get $100.00 up front just to set up each job. I don't do any summer work I'm In Alaska living the dream. So most of my work Is done after break up so I'm harvesting decent hides decent castor and I have a market for the tails.

It took me 12 years to knock down the beaver population In the area I trapped In SC. But I was only there during Jan and Feb. Beaver management at It's best. LOL


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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: mnsota] #6470241
02/22/19 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mnsota
So you drain the castor gland then offer poundage?


I used to try to keep that liquid in there as I had been told that the end user wanted it that way. I have since been told otherwise, so I just squeeze it out so that it doesn't end up leaking out when shipped.

But, if I wasn't shipping and taking it in person to an association sale I would likely allow that liquid to remain in the castor pouches so that I get more weight. smile

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Re: crazy castor prices [Re: ohiosnareman] #6470264
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My local buyer wants the liquid in it

Re: crazy castor prices [Re: The Beav] #6470576
02/23/19 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by Boco
Poor management probably.
I don't weigh my castors when I sell them-I count them.I let the buyer weigh them.I avg just over $10 cdn per beaver for castor.For example,I sold 120 castors a while back and received $1250



Poor beaver management?

You go to the problem area you try to kill every beaver In the area then move on. That's beaver management around here.
Then next year you go back and kill the new beaver that move In.

Every beaver I catch Is worth $50.00 before I ever set a trap. I see nothing wrong with this style of beaver management.


You're a bit cheap Beav. When I'm not wrapped up with timber company work, I charge $250 setup fee and $100 per beaver with no guarantee against reinfestation. It's all in what the market in an area will bear.



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