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Alaska Ptarmigan #6469289
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Just wondering are these birds plentifully and is there a hunting season on them in Alaska??


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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469290
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I would love to get some live breeding pairs of ptarmigan.

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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469296
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Originally Posted by snowy
are these birds plentifully


Annoyingly so where you're trying to sleep. https://youtu.be/Ec-E3YdAR1U

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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469309
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Don't know about Alaskan seasons,but if you are interested in ptarmigan,there is a youtube channel by William Larkin, (big land trapper) that is interesting to follow. He whacks quite a few birds.
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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469311
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They are pretty cyclical. On the Alaska Peninsula we had tons of them maybe five years ago, now it seems like there're hardly any.

Also, there three of different species of ptarmigan; the most widespread and well-known "willow", the "rock" and the "whitetail" ptarmigan. The rock and the whitetail seem to prefer higher elevations, particularly the whitetail.


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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469314
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Is it legal to live trap ptarmigan?

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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469319
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^^^^^
I doubt it, unless you have some sort of scientific collection permit.

You might want to check and see about whitetail ptarmigan in Wyoming, I believe they live there, but I don't know if they have a season on them. I do know that Wyoming had and maybe still has some pretty lenient laws about retaining animals alive that are taken under a trapping license; such as marten. Maybe it's the same for birds???

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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: waggler] #6469326
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Originally Posted by waggler
They are pretty cyclical. On the Alaska Peninsula we had tons of them maybe five years ago, now it seems like there're hardly any.

Also, there three of different species of ptarmigan; the most widespread and well-known "willow", the "rock" and the "whitetail" ptarmigan. The rock and the whitetail seem to prefer higher elevations, particularly the whitetail.

I'll have to do some reading up on them. They are like a grouse right, but a little bigger?

William Larkin, (big land trapper) >>>> I'll see if I can find it.


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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469346
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I know some guys would snowmobile into the higher elevations looking to bust up flocks. I'm told flocks of fifty or more weren't uncommon. Once the flock was broken up, they'd strap on their snowshoes and go after individual birds that were looking to regroup. Pretty common bird in the upper elevations.

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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469354
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^Thanks. A beautiful bird in the winter looks like they change colour in summer.


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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469355
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KeithC You can head up to Kavic and spend some time with Sue. I'm sure she could fix you up. LOL


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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: The Beav] #6469362
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Originally Posted by The Beav
KeithC You can head up to Kavic and spend some time with Sue. I'm sure she could fix you up. LOL



I'll pass. I usually fast forward through her part of the show. She would probably get ticked when I skinned out her foxes too.

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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469367
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Originally Posted by snowy
^Thanks. A beautiful bird in the winter looks like they change colour in summer.


I posted a YouTube video of what they sound like. I did a spring bear hunt in the higher elevations and those birds must have been looking for mates. Constant chatter all day long. Days are long in Alaska in May.

Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: KeithC] #6469374
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Originally Posted by KeithC
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KeithC You can head up to Kavic and spend some time with Sue. I'm sure she could fix you up. LOL



I'll pass. I usually fast forward through her part of the show. She would probably get ticked when I skinned out her foxes too.

Keith

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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: The Beav] #6469402
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Originally Posted by The Beav
KeithC You can head up to Kavic and spend some time with Sue. I'm sure she could fix you up. LOL

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Originally Posted by The Beav
KeithC You can head up to Kavic and spend some time with Sue. I'm sure she could fix you up. LOL


You would be known as the bravest man ever lived. Lol

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^ LOL


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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: racerboy108] #6469651
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Originally Posted by racerboy108
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KeithC You can head up to Kavic and spend some time with Sue. I'm sure she could fix you up. LOL


You would be known as the bravest man ever lived. Lol




I swear if I were 5000 feet overhead with fuel tanks dry and Sues airstrip the only one below I'd knock out the planes Windows and start flapping my arms.

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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469707
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Yep, there is a reason she is up there by her lonesome. Always yaking about her customers but it is very rare to see anyone there. Not surprised at that either.


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Re: Alaska Ptarmigan [Re: snowy] #6469807
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There are three types of ptarmigan in AK. The Willow, Rock and Whitetail. The willow is most common. I hunted them some when I was there, always late in the year when the snow was deep. They were a pain to hunt at best that time of the year. When you jumped them they often headed to the next point which was a mile plus away. They often just flew out of sight. Sometimes they would jump wild hundred to two hundred yards away and other times you could walk right up to them. Where we hunted there was a lot of four to six foot brush. The tips of the brush would be sticking up in spots and that was what they fed on. There is nothing like falling through the snow and being hung in brush in snow shoes in eight foot of powder snow. It was one of those things I am glad I did, but would never do it at this point in life.


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