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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6469594
02/22/19 07:57 AM
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I made the YUGE mistake of pulling out when it dropped to 12000 as I didn't want to lose it all. Wish now I'd have left it alone. Hindsight is 20/20.


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: dugit] #6469613
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Originally Posted by dugit
wow Thats liberal math. It's a lot easier to double 10000 then it is to double 20000. Trump has to get it to 30000 (a 10000 increase) to do the same as Obama did. Obama took 8 years to do it. Trump is well over half way there in 2 years.


Um.......Wrong. Percentages are what matters not points.

White has pretty much nailed it. If anyone really wants to know why the stock market is where it is they will look at policies and actions by central banks across the world. The debate is are the risks they have taken going to be worth it.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6469643
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White is correct in saying that the market went up with Obama in office not due to what he did but in spite of what he did.
Regulation/strangulation doesn't help any business (except maybe firearms) move ahead.

Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Andy27] #6469804
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Originally Posted by Andy27
Originally Posted by Diggerman
Andrew, Trump has already beaten the Obama 8 years in only 2.

You don't know much about the stock market if you believe that. When Obama started his presidency the Dow was around 10-11 thousand, when he left it was around 21000. That means it doubled.


I didn't start buying stocks on my own through Scottrade until 2009. It has been a great run. I even retired a couple years early because of the cushion it gave me. I don't know if I should thank Bush for putting the market into the tank so that I could get everything so cheap, or Obama for making it climb so fast. I hope trump keeps it going for another year or so.

Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: white17] #6469918
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Originally Posted by white17
Fed is not currently buying securities. In fact they would like to sell the ones they bought but that seems to put downward pressure on the market. Consequently, they are backing off of winding down their balance sheet.


I didn't know the Fed was mandated to help the stock market? confused


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6469920
02/22/19 01:32 PM
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Well, you're right of course ..they aren't. But in the circumstances they found themselves, it was a 'tool' they didn't even know they had. But NOW they are really in a box of their own making !


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6469923
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Darn capitalist and there government dependency. frown


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6469924
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LOL


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6470093
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So what everybody seems to be saying is presidents control the stock market. Kind of like a command economy?


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Dirt] #6470117
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Originally Posted by Dirt
So what everybody seems to be saying is presidents control the stock market. Kind of like a command economy?

Control - no, influence - yes

Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6470122
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So when a president signs a bill to bail out failed wall street banks, that is just influencing the market? Or when they whine anytime the Fed wants to raise interest rates to anywhere near normal that there is influence? Whining is probably just influence.


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6470127
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The bond market has a lot more influence on the fed than the stock market does. It's just that the public is a lot more familiar with the stock market. The president and the fed can do whatever they want but I guarantee you the bond market will react one way or the other. Both the president and the fed are well aware of this !


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6470359
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NPR said the DOW was up a little for the week, Nothing about hitting 26000.

Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6470559
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I think if a duck was president stock market would do what the stock market does.

Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6470568
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With the way the Fed and the federal government has inflated the money supply the last several years, the stock market had no way to go but up.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Steven 49er] #6470589
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
With the way the Fed and the federal government has inflated the money supply the last several years, the stock market had no way to go but up.

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oh but inflation is tame.... its where we want it to be...yadda yadda
a very small candy bar and a pop is 5 bucks hmmm


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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6470644
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Keep buying over time. Whether up or down you still own same number of shares and history shows it's a good return over time.
Diversify, blend, periodically rebalance, whatever your strategy, but keep buying and building portfolios.
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Re: Dow at 25,954 [Re: Gary Benson] #6470680
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just leave 1929 out


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