Yeah, trapperne, I know you've told me that before but I end up with some. From May 2013 through 2017, my coon skins graded "Semi Western Heavy" ran about 5% of my totals (and I send small totals). But in 2018 (again, a very small batch), I didn't have any Western Northerns and the SWHs moved up to about 40%. They got cleared out with NAFA's Dec coon fire sale. Now his year, taken from Nov 12 through the end of Dec, I'm ending up with about 30% WSH. And I trap the same areas. Go figure...

not when you have up to 13 in the same lot....still the procedure of copying lots is a hemmoroid

I am sure you will be able to click on your lots some time soon Cletis.

Has anyone had any cats to show up yet ? I seen that the catalog was posted but my cats haven't showed up yet and they was left over from last year.

If you look at the list of catalogs, the very last one is Wild Fur PT. Additional wild fur resale lots.

It is possible that the bobcats, coyotes, and other species held over from last season are in that catalog and will not be offered during the open auction. NAFA figures the values are too high and don't want to waste time in the auction room or waste the buyers time looking at goods that can't buy.

Not sure that is the reason but it makes sense to me.

I just don’t think they’ve updated accounts since the last catalog was posted. My fisher aren’t showing up yet either

My otter, lynx and mink are lotted,but fisher and marten(catalogue 4) are not up yet.

Catalog 4 is up when I look at the NAFA web site.

I should clarify.Catalogue is up but the lotting letters for catalogue 4 are not showing on the accounts yet.

I think Nancy is correct on the lynxcats. I sure don't agree with having select xp cats in a pt room where I can't see what's happening. The cats that I have missing were xp selects not junk by any means.

Zactly

Were your cats previously offered at a live auction? I understand NAFA' reasoning. Not going to get into an argument.

I have coyote left from last year that are in the regular Wild Fur Catalog and I have lotting info. I suspect that all sundry owner pelts will be in the regular catalog to be auctioned. My Opinion......

And the Wild Fur (PT) Catalog description "Additional resale wild fur lots", makes me think that these are dealer lots that have been through at least one auction and have not sold so NAFA is keeping them out of the regular auction catalog. Again, My Opinion based on the way it is worded

Wait til tomorrow and they will update your accounts and we will have lynx cat lotting numbers. I have left over cats and fresh cats up there they will be on the sale. They just haven't updated everything,

It is possible that the bobcats, coyotes, and other species held over from last season are in that catalog and will not be offered during the open auction. NAFA figures the values are too high and don't want to waste time in the auction room or waste the buyers time looking at goods that can't sell.

Were your cats previously offered at a live auction? I understand NAFA' reasoning. Not going to get into an argument.[/quote]
they were and were buy backs. I have one that went through 2 sales that was a select xp. No worries about argument, I agree to their terms by being a wfsc member. I just don't agree with pt sales unless they are junk skins that need to be un loaded.

PT sales are not just for junk fur,unless you consider higher grade fur bought back on the floor to protect the base, junk fur.

the exact reason that I don't like these little deals going on behind closed doors. I would much rather see these select furs go up for auction for all to see. I don't mind when we are dealing with a 9 dollar select xl coon, but it's a different story when dealing with skins that are triple digit and over in value.

So you think the auctioneer should let them go under value on the floor,wrecking the basis for every single lot below that?
They will buy back that lot and go to the next one in the catalogue and open bids at value on that lot.They offer bb lots private treaty after the auction for what it was originally valued at,or within 10% or so if there is any interest.

Nope just buy them back and then re auction them the next auction on the high grade skins that have interested buyers. Pt all the junk.

I Simply do not like to have no way of seeing what's going on behind closed doors. I would much rather see what's going on with my high value furs. If you have to fire sale, yes by all means buy back and private treaty the skins to try and get clearance. Don't hold on to high quality skins through 2 sales and then pt them. Seems a little shifty to me that there are only a handful of cats that have the same grade as the one I am talking about, and they are right at the top lot line. Why is mine not on with them since it was the same exact grade as those skins for 2 auctions.