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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6473883
02/26/19 02:22 AM
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So why don't you go sell to groney?Why shouldn't Nafa make a Private treaty sale to whoever?
You are still trying to blame someone else for your own mistake.Not nafas fault if you paid too much for the fur you wanted them to re sell for you.
If you are still in business why not sell to groney or get another auction house besides NAFA to peddle your goods and see if they can do any better.

Last edited by Boco; 02/26/19 02:26 AM.

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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6473887
02/26/19 02:50 AM
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Oh trust me I have found honest people to do business with and doing just fine. If your not smart enough to see how Nafa selling to grownwold is a problem I can’t help you, I’ll just say it contradicts everything you say about what Nafa is.


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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6473888
02/26/19 03:02 AM
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By the way I never said I payed to much for fur or that I lost money, but they sure cost me money, there’s a difference


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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6473890
02/26/19 03:13 AM
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Explain that- cost you money or lost money?And what do you mean what I say Nafa Is-Your full of it.Right up to your eyeballs.I've dealt with NAFA for near 40 years and they have sold fur for me.I never hear any Canadian shippers complain about NAFA,always Americans.Whats with that?Because its a Canadian Auction house?
They never cost me money I have done fine with them and OTA\FHA,so you need to look in the mirror if you want to see whos not too smart.

Last edited by Boco; 02/26/19 03:17 AM.

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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: trapperne] #6473922
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Originally Posted by trapperne
The coon sold where less then a year old, and your telling me grownwold can get better money then Nafa can. Kind of shows how important they are in the industry. Says volumes what Nafa thinks of their customers.


Yea, really think about it. Why wouldn't NAFA sell where Grony sells to instead of to Grony?

Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6473993
02/26/19 09:46 AM
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Lol, there is NOBODY honest in the fur business!

Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474039
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selling fur is like buying a new pickup. after a month or two I always feel like I should have done a little better


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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: Boco] #6474087
02/26/19 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
So why don't you go sell to groney?Why shouldn't Nafa make a Private treaty sale to whoever?
You are still trying to blame someone else for your own mistake.Not nafas fault if you paid too much for the fur you wanted them to re sell for you.
If you are still in business why not sell to groney or get another auction house besides NAFA to peddle your goods and see if they can do any better.



I have no dog in this fight but if I sent my $10 coon to NAFA and they sold them to GFW for $10 less 11% commission I would be bummed. Why WOULDN'T I sell them to GFW for $10?


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: 160user] #6474094
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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by Boco
So why don't you go sell to groney?Why shouldn't Nafa make a Private treaty sale to whoever?
You are still trying to blame someone else for your own mistake.Not nafas fault if you paid too much for the fur you wanted them to re sell for you.
If you are still in business why not sell to groney or get another auction house besides NAFA to peddle your goods and see if they can do any better.



I have no dog in this fight but if I sent my $10 coon to NAFA and they sold them to GFW for $10 less 11% commission I would be bummed. Why WOULDN'T I sell them to GFW for $10?


But if they had sold them for $14 or $15 you would be happy and GFW would be sad. Everytime we make a sell or decision, we are betting we know the answer.

Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474099
02/26/19 11:55 AM
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I wanna see my fur get graded in front of me... None of this trusting the Grade after sending it off..
I can always say "No" to the price and negotiate from there.
To many stories of experienced people putting up good fur and having it grade junk, only to sell cheap to someones buddy I'm sure....

Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: trapperne] #6474118
02/26/19 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by trapperne
Oh trust me I have found honest people to do business with and doing just fine. If your not smart enough to see how Nafa selling to grownwold is a problem I can’t help you, I’ll just say it contradicts everything you say about what Nafa is.


That hurts trappers in the future. If groeny can get them cheaper from Nafa, why would they need to buy them from trappers? Doesn't clear the coon pipeline either. The reason you have auctions is competitive bidding should get you the highest prices. Obviously neither Canadian Consigner can get much bidding these days. If they can't get bidding, no point in sending them fur. IMHO


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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474122
02/26/19 12:32 PM
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Trap-Alaska grownwold isn’t buying fur at an auction unless they are already resold. So why couldn’t Nafa get the extra dollars for the trapper?


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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474152
02/26/19 01:19 PM
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Couple of take-aways from this thread.

1. Groenewold has orders for 'coon.

2. Groenewold is making money on 'coon.

3. Just might be Groenewold is in need of 'coon next season.

4. Therefore, this boy will be resurrecting the 'coon river line next season.

Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474164
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Things are looking up somewhat, hope they keep going up.

Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474183
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If the price of gas keeps going up you will have to row. LOL

I have yet to see any $15.00 averages On put up coon so you might have to rethink that coon line.


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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474184
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I think I should say that i'm not in the least complaining about the prices I got at the window... I know what I had and I thought groenwold did me fair. I did better than some not as good as others, but I thought I got treated fairly. in the end that's all you can hope for...


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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: 160user] #6474191
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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by Boco
So why don't you go sell to groney?Why shouldn't Nafa make a Private treaty sale to whoever?
You are still trying to blame someone else for your own mistake.Not nafas fault if you paid too much for the fur you wanted them to re sell for you.
If you are still in business why not sell to groney or get another auction house besides NAFA to peddle your goods and see if they can do any better.



I have no dog in this fight but if I sent my $10 coon to NAFA and they sold them to GFW for $10 less 11% commission I would be bummed. Why WOULDN'T I sell them to GFW for $10?


I know what you are saying, but $10 (total cost) coon from NAFA is not the same as $10 coon from you. A $10(total cost) coon from NAFA is sorted, bailed, and ready to ship.


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Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474267
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NAFA don't care, they make money on both ends. Might lose a little bit, make up for it in volume. Get a dollar off a million items equals a million dollars. People aren't very bright and will come back as they advertise their false advertising.

Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Beav] #6474317
02/26/19 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
If the price of gas keeps going up you will have to row. LOL

I have yet to see any $15.00 averages On put up coon so you might have to rethink that coon line.


I have oars. And I don't burn up all that much gas on the river.

The question will be at what size does Groeney begin buying? 3XL on up is tough overall.

Re: sold to groeny the other day [Re: The Savage] #6474325
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Lol funny. Nobody wanted to take the bet 3 months ago when I said we would see 20$ coon at auction. Everybody thought Groney is the market and $6 is pretty good in this market,lol. My Nafa valuations are $25 to 30 on 4x selects,$17 to 24 on 3x selects and $9 to 11 on doubles. You guys got ripped again as I have followed the sellers and their prices all year. Way off including coyote. Don't know why you guys buy into that crap every year. It is one to thing to buy fur,it is another thing to tell people yeah we want them but they aren't worth much.,lol

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