Something tells me you ponder yourself way too much.

i'm my own worst enemy in that aspect i will admit.

You don't have to put traps In those boxes.

No you missed it. Groeny can pay the trapper $14 for that coon, still turn a profit re selling it at $15, and the end user still saves money vs using NAFA. That's how groeny is able to pay comparable prices as recieved through NAFA. The only times I've seen NAFA beat out Groeny is when a particular item is red hot, like coyotes at the moment. Beav is WAY off with his assumption of groeny's profit margin. They make their profit by paying the trapper well, which in turn leads to buying a large quantity, thus the profit margin need not be as high to still make a decent profit. When your dealing with hundreds of thousands of pelts, a $1-$2 profit per piece becomes quite substantial. Sure there are times the margin is less, and more.

That it's just like a rich hog farmer I talked to once. He says that the only makes $1 a hog he's still making money.

$1.00 profit ROTFLMAO.

I had a handful of coon that brought 10 dollars each green, I sold to them this year.
I thought that was pretty good for Northern Mo coon thats green. Had a decent Avg on green ones, didnt make time to put them up trapping coyotes kept me busy.

as long as the guy selling the fur is happy,really don't matter what the rest of us rocket scientists think.

If he's buying at 14 and selling at 15 maybe that rumor of him going under is true. Come on Dave, the next thing your going to tell us is he puts a bow on them

A 10 dollar coon paid by Groney just doesn't stop there. He may have 12-13-14 dollars in that coon by the time its all said and done. There are other costs incurred after/before buying it.

$1 profit on 500,000 pelts is still half a million dollar profit yeah. I'd take that. We can speculate on the total expenses. And speculate how much he wants to make/ Pelt. It would be interesting to know, does growney know what he's going to get at the time he makes his purchase?

I agree.

It's not happy trappers that is bad, it is trappers telling buyers they are happy. Never let them know you are happy. They will be happy to give you less the next time.

I like the classic," those prices are pretty good,I am going to meet their truck tomorrow", lol why would one pay anymore when you said you were happy with the price and already told them I am coming tomorrow?

Any good business man knows what He needs to do to make money. I'm sure groney goes Into the buying season knowing he has orders to fill and he knows what that buyer Is going pay him for those skins. So groney knows how much he has to pay the trapper and how much he has In over head and that figures out how much profit he's going to make.

Then once those orders are filled he goes Into the speculation mode. And It just makes sense that he would be paying less for those goods that he doesn't have a market for.

I sold all my fur to groney this year and I'm pretty happy with what I got. I still owe NAFA a $100.00 for my WFSC dues. LOL

About fell out of my chair when I read this.

Did Hades just freeze over?

Interesting thread, but one thing its missing...If half doesn't like NAFA/FHA route and half doesn't like the Groeny route....Where do ya sell!??

He sell to the little guy like me that will work his fingers to the Bone and make a little money. And then the next year be overly optimistic and overpay and make everybody happy except for him and his family when they starve to death.

runnin low on those guys though Poorcoon.

Come on beav, I shouldn't have to tell you that a couple dollar profit on say a half a million pelts is a million bucks.

You seem to have the idea that its a simple matter of buying the pelt and reselling it, when in reality there are a LOT of costs in between.