I used work factory 30 years an went out bussinrss. Had few jobs in last 3 yrs. Right now I dont even work 40 hrs week at 2 pt jobs, 1 is metal factory where been pt temp for over year, as press operater at big presses that have up 2500 ton force, it can be moderate heavy lifting an very dirty , lots oil involved.working pt is ok as well as close home, the pay with temp job is not fantastic but main thing I don't like is lot new temps when work them, like latino deaf an dum one today as well other temps, on controls, I never have hands near controls while other is put parts in press., There is a lasar curtain, that stop press if u to close press. If u try make it work, some these temps ppl, ike today just go an don't look with controls, hands on control button always, I put part in today, he looking other way an slam in controls, if lasar curtain fail, my hands , arms, gone , yesterday I had put my head an arms under die an press to remove part continually , anyone know what I talk about a lasar curtain by press for safety , I wonder what chance them fail ? Don't they got have by law, a set controls for each operater, so such accident can't happen , ? U tell other operater, they say ya, pay no attention, this guy deaf an dum today, I don't like at all, management don't care, , max production is all care, set up person think it funny , tell superviser an nothing or real crap hard job assignment

Report health and safety violations to your union steward.

Or OSHA

https://www.osha.gov/workers/file_complaint.html

No way I'd put my head or even my hand in a pinch point like that with somebody I don't trust near the controls.

I agree, and anybody who told me I have too, can eat a bag of... well. I’m not putting my safety on the line for that.

I knew a guy that lost a finger in a punch press. Missed a few months and came back. Everyone is asking him how he could've done it....


He puts his hand back in and somehow accidentally did punched off the next finger trying to show they guys what happened....


He went back to raising cows.

You say management doesn’t care. Are you talking about direct supervisors? Did your express your concerns with your Human Resources representative?

Union rep? If you have one

Have you called your state department of labor?

If you have talked to them, and didn’t get a response. I’d call OSHA and get another job.

should be a hand operated safety disconnect when your moving parts but I understand what your talking about lazer curtain ,electric eye limit switch can fail anytime

Lockout, tag out, try out. Is a policy to have. Should be company s.o.p. in place for all hazarards jobs and machines. Or osha's is a friend to have, better than or else, would da, should da, and could da's. Just don't cut it when it comes to ones safety.

No union, the hr has not say a word to me ever, u don't know what press , what part, who u be working with from 1 day to next, from 1 hr to next, some presses have a set palm controls for each operater if 2, some only 1 control for 2 operaters, is that against OSHA law? Oftentimes end up new ppl, they want u show them everything, when I stsrt, I had my hands close to button , not on it, got (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) at, I never did again, u can tell other person, some real good about it, some ssy ya, u can tell them 10 times an pay no attention, the deaf an dum latino really got into hit the control button, production ppl, don't care, max production is what care about , yes lot punch presses, there a hole in sheet metal wall where catch on die broke off an flew threw wall in other room, last summer a catch broke off same die an hit floor, an catch on bottom die that is move by top die an punches holes in part, if hit u, it go right though u , that rare, another plant in bigger town close had maitence person in confined space an machine cycle cut him half , not really want to say lot about it to mangement as I temp an was asked if want work for company an turn them down, I am sure they say, there's the door, go , I was wanting to make myself look different job this spring , not enough money or even if full time, not worth it

If you complain things will get worse for you and there is little hope you will ever be hired full time. Try to find another company that is hiring

Yep..Just drag up....

You mentioned that you are a temp. I am assuming you were hired by the temp agency, who placed you in your current job. I am also assuming your paychecks are issued by the temp agency. If this is the case, the temp agency is your employer of record, not the factory.

Moosetrot

Sorry but.....what? I mean this with all due respect but if you cant put together a little bit more of an articulate thought after 3 decades of working in shops you might explore the possibility of a different field.

Hey Pike River,
Don't judge a book by its cover, even if you can't make sense of the words printed on it. You are passing judgement on a guy whom you have never met. So coonman doesn't type to your standards, and can't spell everything correctly.
I know a fellow who doesn't type anywhere near as good as coonman, but I consider him the smartest man that I have ever met. Things ain't always as they seem.
All due respect,

You're probably right.

Funny you say that 52Carl because one of my dear friends is a farmer and also builds split rail fences and high end barns for people. He couldn't turn on a computer must less type but the man is probably one of the wealthiest in the county, but if you met him in his 30 yr old truck and wore out overalls you'd think he was poor as the dirt in these hills

Depends on the maker of the press what safety's they have on them, most are required to have at least one operator double safety, meaning either two hands or a foot and hand engaged before operation. OSHA don't care what they have as long as they are operational, they will care if one gets hurt if either are disabled or operator is not properly trained in their use,

Not being a baddy, but having a deaf mute running a brake or press is not conducive to good handling production, only thing worse would be him being blind as well. Before I put my hands or any other body part in a brake or press and had concerns about the operator, I would not do it without a filing of complaint if the company said to, your only hurting your self in the long run if you don't.

Your lacking in help here by a long way really, only OSHA will be able to help, if your a temp, the company can ask not to have you back pretty simple, I've worked many years with temp places, my boss using them and know full well about what people will say to get work, only to show up and not ever even seen what they said they could run, they just expect to be trained and then be pro's at it, will work for most anything for a job because they can't be educated to be anything else.

I can almost guarantee if you bring a complaint through OSHA you can kiss that job good bye, or the company will make it so rough on you, you will leave of your own accord which is what they want any way, to avoid any kind of suit.

Your only other resolve is to be sharp as a tack if your forced to work with a bad operator or your self learn to be the operator and be the guy watching, when ever I have been running either I'm the to go guy and nothing gets worked over unless I say so, meaning I'm the guy who makes sure everyone one is clear before engaging.

Being complacent to just to be able work with this kind of equipment can get some one killed in an instant !

Ya I going have to say something an not rely on a Lazar curtain to stop press, that was ridiculous with this jerk today have fun with press palm button, mangement ignores that stuff, that why ur not supposed to run press until u been train on how run part by setup an u sign off every new job, after they sign, training is joke, it just so u know how run part though, u have catch on quick, half time they don't sign off , I not going beg to get sign off. Lot responsibility, for low pay, lot to metal, got watch lot things. Constantly watch machine , slug marks. Bad parts, quality checks, lots paper work, clock in an out jobs, scan paperwork etc

Dave as much as you like Trapping,have you ever thought or considered getting into ADC work? Sounds like you could get seriously hurt at this current Job.